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THUCYDIDES79 said:
I never doubted that there are side effects, however if my GP immunises his own children before a trip to India, that says a lot about how dangerous some of these diseases can be.......... If vaccines are as bad as some here say, why would GPs, who are much more knowledgable and informed about this area than anyone here, immunise their own children? Why would they willingly put their childrens' lives in danger?
At one stage in my life I had a business selling health products to the medical industry ie naturopaths, doctors etc.
You would be surprised how impressionable, and gullible, doctors are at times. They tend to rely overly on the medical reps for advice - many times they rang me up as to what to prescribe for certain individuals or situations.
Just for the record, I am not a medical doctor.
You would be surprised how impressionable, and gullible, doctors are at times. They tend to rely overly on the medical reps for advice - many times they rang me up as to what to prescribe for certain individuals or situations.
Just for the record, I am not a medical doctor.
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Chilli said:
Stuart Wilde hey?
His earlier books are great but now I believe him to be a conman who thinks he's special. Can't stand the guy.
trew said:
He'd be great at a dinner party.
Ag-ness
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Yes, he sounds like a real barrel of laughs.
It's interesting how easily anyone with a cuckoo clock for a brain, can claim they've been discredited by "the man" because the man didn't want the "real" truth to get out. Similarly, it's just as easy for "the man" to perform this discreditation. I really wonder whether the "the man" collective is that cohesive and organised.
It's interesting how easily anyone with a cuckoo clock for a brain, can claim they've been discredited by "the man" because the man didn't want the "real" truth to get out. Similarly, it's just as easy for "the man" to perform this discreditation. I really wonder whether the "the man" collective is that cohesive and organised.
I realise this is dragging up an old thread but for those who are interested:
Vaccine bombshell: Baby monkeys given standard doses of popular vaccines develop autism symptoms
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/035787_vaccines_autism_monkeys.html#ixzz1uR9PXFCD
"(NaturalNews) If vaccines play absolutely no role in the development of childhood autism, a claim made by many medical authorities today, then why are some of the most popular vaccines commonly administered to children demonstrably causing autism in animal primates? This is the question many people are now asking after a recent study conducted by scientists at the University of Pittsburgh (UP) in Pennsylvania revealed that many of the infant monkeys given standard doses of childhood vaccines as part of the new research developed autism symptoms.
For their analysis, Laura Hewitson and her colleagues at UP conducted the type of proper safety research on typical childhood vaccination schedules that the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) should have conducted -- but never has -- for such regimens. And what this brave team discovered was groundbreaking, as it completely deconstructs the mainstream myth that vaccines are safe and pose no risk of autism.
Presented at the International Meeting for Autism Research (IMFAR) in London, England, the findings revealed that young macaque monkeys given the typical CDC-recommended vaccination schedule from the 1990s, and in appropriate doses for the monkeys' sizes and ages, tended to develop autism symptoms. Their unvaccinated counterparts, on the other hand, developed no such symptoms, which points to a strong connection between vaccines and autism spectrum disorders."
Vaccine bombshell: Baby monkeys given standard doses of popular vaccines develop autism symptoms
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/035787_vaccines_autism_monkeys.html#ixzz1uR9PXFCD
"(NaturalNews) If vaccines play absolutely no role in the development of childhood autism, a claim made by many medical authorities today, then why are some of the most popular vaccines commonly administered to children demonstrably causing autism in animal primates? This is the question many people are now asking after a recent study conducted by scientists at the University of Pittsburgh (UP) in Pennsylvania revealed that many of the infant monkeys given standard doses of childhood vaccines as part of the new research developed autism symptoms.
For their analysis, Laura Hewitson and her colleagues at UP conducted the type of proper safety research on typical childhood vaccination schedules that the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) should have conducted -- but never has -- for such regimens. And what this brave team discovered was groundbreaking, as it completely deconstructs the mainstream myth that vaccines are safe and pose no risk of autism.
Presented at the International Meeting for Autism Research (IMFAR) in London, England, the findings revealed that young macaque monkeys given the typical CDC-recommended vaccination schedule from the 1990s, and in appropriate doses for the monkeys' sizes and ages, tended to develop autism symptoms. Their unvaccinated counterparts, on the other hand, developed no such symptoms, which points to a strong connection between vaccines and autism spectrum disorders."
Human bodies are extremely finely balanced, self repairing systems with amazing ability to fight off infections and will do so if looked after. Personally I don't trust companies that make massive profits each year based on "flu season". No corporate board would ever jeopardise a multi billion dollar annual customer base by telling them the truth about what is going into their arm and how effective it really is, and what happens to a significant number of people after they receive their shot. I am not staying that the vaccines are ineffective, but they are less effective than people think, they are formulated by a guess at what viri may be around next year and there are dangers that drug companies spend a lot of money to hide.
Wout said:
OK this thread had died but since it's been brought up again (and at the risk of going off 'Markets and Economics' topic)...
... the purpose of that comment was to point out that the only reason somebody can decide to not vaccinate and still run a low risk of catching the diseases is because the vast majority are vaccinated and the diseases don't circulate.
Have you travelled overseas? Did you get your 'shots' before you went?
Or did you decide to test how well your immune system functions ?
Would you take children overseas without any vaccinations ?
I have no problem if you decide to not vaccinate yourself or your children - that is your choice.
I also think it is a good idea to mandate everyone wear a seat belt when driving, a helmet when riding a bike/motorcycle etc.
I'm sure some here consider these things as threats to their freedom or part of some greater conspiracy theory.
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trew said:
The polio vaccine was a SUCCESS as it was ORAL. It protected the gut. It was natural, and I would prefer it to what we have now... intra-muscular that causes huge problems.
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f40 said:trew said:
Funnily enough i went to Sri Lanka recently and didn't take any shots beforehand. Amazingly I live to tell the story
Well you're taking a gamble.
Hep B anyone? Easily transmitted through unhygienic practises and handling of food.
There were occasional Hep B outbreaks were i used too work, because of a large Islander population and low rates of immunisation.
Like i said before - when my Indian GP takes his family to India, they each have about 10 shots.