If a Republican wins the White House in 2016......

I like aussies and yanks. However we got to this point anyone who is bombing ISIS is OK with me.

People forget there was genocide happening in Bosnia and if the US had not done something it would have continued.

I know I'll get flamed for saying that. How about the Berlin airlift. The contribution to defeating Hitler and Japan? How about the marshall plan?



Neither is the US responsible for Gaza - it was a British mandate.

Neither will the USA collapse USSR style.

a)The USSR collapsed because it had a Marxist Leninist command economy. The US does not.
b)It was a brutal police state empire founded on the military occupation of eastern European countries and the subsequent torture and elimination of any political opposition.

I'm not saying the US is perfect and it is evolving into a police state. I'm a cynic but the mainland Chinese I've met hate Australia because of their experience with Australian immigration and would happily see every Australian dead. The Australians are not perceived in China as any more of a friend than the USA and have a long standing record of treating Asians as human refuse in their immigration policies.

Be careful for what you wish for.

Not that the Americans for good or ill are going to cease being the dominant military and economic power for the next 30 years anyway.

Australia has prospered in a world dominated by the USA and anglo-sphere and the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, UK etc are a linguistic and cultural block, like it or not.

Have a look at Tibet, Hong Kong and Ukraine or Belarus. Compare north and south korea.

In a choice between two evils, I'll go for the lesser. When someone can show me a death toll in the USA like that under the Soviets in Russia or Chairman Mao in China please post it up here.
 
I've always thought it strange that racism is frowned upon but nationalism is applauded.
 
smk762 said:
I've always thought it strange that racism is frowned upon but nationalism is applauded.
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They are both idiotic.

The problem is the last group of people to play the nationalist card end up being robbed blind and murdered by everyone else and their flags.
 
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Off topic but the problem with Hillary according to Jeffrey Tucker is:

The Awful Implications of Hillary's Candidacy

The Clinton campaign for president is going to shake out the same way that the Obama candidacy did. In the end, its primary appeal will be to identity politics. Voters will be asked to make possible a historic advance for women. Only this way, we will be told, can we as a nation (people, humanity, whatever) put to rest a long history of subjugation and exclusion.

The history is correct but the solution is not. There is nothing necessarily wrong with cheering the election of a woman president. What's incorrect is the belief that a woman president will make women's lives better. Getting someone who shares your identity into power does nothing to improve your life. And if you look at Hillary's sexual politics most egregiously mandated equal pay it will do much to set back the advancement of women in economic life and society.

Why do we tend to believe otherwise? Why are people predictably tricked into supporting one of their own as a political leader? It's an ancient error, literally. Let's take a look at a powerful essay by French liberal Benjamin Constant, written in 1819. It is called "The Liberty of the Ancients Compared with that of the Moderns." It certainly opened my eyes to a deeper understanding of what's going on here.
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http://tucker.liberty.me/2015/04/12/the-awful-implications-of-hillarys-candidacy/

Heading back towards the topic (but nothing to do with silver or gold sorry), Tucker's views on Rand Paul are interesting:

Will Rand Paul Improve Liberty's Prospects?

"Do you think supporting Rand Paul for President is good for liberty?"

Here is my incredibly unsatisfying answer: I don't know.

Truly, I don't. Neither do you. Why can't we just admit this?
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http://tucker.liberty.me/2015/04/07/will-rand-paul-improve-libertys-prospects/

I think it'll come down to the coolest name - Rand is a cool name but it's a bit WTF?, Hillary is so old school but it's still cool in a Victorian era kind of way.

Will a cool name have much of an impact on the PM market? Probably not.
 
mmm....shiney! said:
Off topic but the problem with Hillary according to Jeffrey Tucker is:

The Awful Implications of Hillary's Candidacy

The Clinton campaign for president is going to shake out the same way that the Obama candidacy did. In the end, its primary appeal will be to identity politics. Voters will be asked to make possible a historic advance for women. Only this way, we will be told, can we as a nation (people, humanity, whatever) put to rest a long history of subjugation and exclusion.

The history is correct but the solution is not. There is nothing necessarily wrong with cheering the election of a woman president. What's incorrect is the belief that a woman president will make women's lives better. Getting someone who shares your identity into power does nothing to improve your life. And if you look at Hillary's sexual politics most egregiously mandated equal pay it will do much to set back the advancement of women in economic life and society.

Why do we tend to believe otherwise? Why are people predictably tricked into supporting one of their own as a political leader? It's an ancient error, literally. Let's take a look at a powerful essay by French liberal Benjamin Constant, written in 1819. It is called "The Liberty of the Ancients Compared with that of the Moderns." It certainly opened my eyes to a deeper understanding of what's going on here.
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http://tucker.liberty.me/2015/04/12/the-awful-implications-of-hillarys-candidacy/

Heading back towards the topic (but nothing to do with silver or gold sorry), Tucker's views on Rand Paul are interesting:

Will Rand Paul Improve Liberty's Prospects?

"Do you think supporting Rand Paul for President is good for liberty?"

Here is my incredibly unsatisfying answer: I don't know.

Truly, I don't. Neither do you. Why can't we just admit this?
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http://tucker.liberty.me/2015/04/07/will-rand-paul-improve-libertys-prospects/

I think it'll come down to the coolest name - Rand is a cool name but it's a bit WTF?, Hillary is so old school but it's still cool in a Victorian era kind of way.

Will a cool name have much of an impact on the PM market? Probably not.
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Of the countless problems the Conservative Republiucan talking heads in the U.S. have is that virtually all are blatant hypocrites. As just one of countless examples (and put aside for now the fact that there's no good evidence at all to support the Conservative Republican talking heads' claims) is that these Conservative Republican talking heads claim that many Democrats voted for Obama because he is black or because he has a Muslim-sounding name and many Democrats will vote for Hillary because she is a woman....conveniently forgetting to remind their audience that at the same time some or many Conservative Republicans would have NOT voted for Obama because he is black or has a Muslim-sounding name and will not vote for Hillary because she is a woman.

The Conservative Republican talking heads play the same dirty game as the far, far Left wing talking heads.

Neither Left nor Right is a good choice for Americans. What America needs is truly progressive policies, not regressive and reactionary policies. We need a truly progressive (not Liberal nor Libertarian) 3rd party in the U.S. a party that has fair and broad-minded notions about things like campaign finance reforms, the out of control influence of special interest groups on our elected officials, re-evaluation of term limits with an eye to reduce, erecting much wider and taller walls for the separation of church and state, unfair taxation of the working class, military conflict, resource consumption, energy policy, the environment, education, social welfare and building opportunity for all, and so on and so forth.



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mmissinglink said:
Let's take a look at a powerful essay by French liberal Benjamin Constant, written in 1819. It is called "The Liberty of the Ancients Compared with that of the Moderns." It certainly opened my eyes to a deeper understanding of what's going on here.
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http://fee.org/resources/detail/the-liberty-of-ancients-compared-with-that-of-moderns

^^^^
WOW!, that's an amazing read
Guys n Gals, do yourselves a favour and read this incredible insight from 1819. They were true scholars and thinkers back then.
 
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Source: http://www.conspiracyclub.co/2015/0...hyhow-the-media-is-rigged-and-its-terrifying/

The Arkancide website consists of a history of the Clintons and their misdeeds in Arkansas and the White House, a list of books about the Clintons, a section on Hillary Clinton, which is rapidly growing and becoming increasingly relevant to all of us, and a section on the press and their view of Hillary as "she who can do no wrong."

If you're in a hurry and can't spare the week or two that it would take to follow all these links, at least read the three-part history of Hillary Clinton by Cockburn and St. Clair and the 29 episodes of The Real Hillary Clinton

Arkancide.com is run by someone who doesn't believe in UFO's or that the Moon landings were faked or that JFK was shot by a guy on the grassy knoll or that Elvis is alive (sorry!) or that Princess Diana was liquidated by MI6 or... well any of that type of nonsense.

Conspiracy theorists are idiots and I'm pleased not to be one of them. There was nothing "theoretical" about the Mena/ADFA conspiracy or the Whitewater conspiracy or the Cattle Futures conspiracy or Filegate or Travelgate or Bloodgate or... I'll finish the list when I get a moment!

http://www.arkancide.com/
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmpAVOvMf94[/youtube]

see 'The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire - Gibbon' for context.
 
Language WARNING!!!!!
from the onion;
http://www.theonion.com/articles/hillary-clinton-to-nation-do-not-fuck-this-up-for,38416/

WASHINGTONAfter several seconds spent sitting motionless and glaring directly into the camera,
former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton reportedly began Sunday's video announcing her 2016 presidential bid
by warning the nation not to fuck this up for her. "Listen up, assholes, 'cause I'm only saying this once:
I've worked way too goddamn hard to let you morons blow this thing for me,"
said Clinton, repeatedly jabbing her index finger toward the viewers at home while adding that
if they thought she was going to simply sit back and watch them dick her over like they did in 2008,
they were out of their fucking minds.
"Seriously, don't you dare even think about it.
If you shitheads can just get in line, we can breeze through this whole campaign in 19 months and be done with it.
Or, if you really want, we can do this the hard way.
Because make no mistake, I'm not fucking around. Got it?"
Clinton then ended her announcement by vowing to fight for a better future
for all working-class families like the one she grew up in.
 
Golightly said:
Southerner said:
OK Nikeva and BoliverT,

Concerning Julie's post .... what brilliant in-depth and insightful political analysis you two have provided.

Now I understand why US politics is in the state it is in.




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Ha ha ja you hit the nail on the head, ship is sinking but all the retards are to busy watching tv at the buffet.
As a species Americans will become extinct, they are to stooopid to survive.
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Blah blah blah death to the usa blah blah blah, some garbage from russia today...blah blah blah....ukranians are fascists...blah blah blah...american invented evil...blah blah blah nato and the cia something....blah blah blah...
 
Golightly said:
Niveka said:
Golightly said:
Ha ha ja you hit the nail on the head, ship is sinking but all the retards are to busy watching tv at the buffet.
As a species Americans will become extinct, they are to stooopid to survive.
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You sir are and idiot and a xenophobe. It's ok, you can look it up, nobody's judging you....
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Ha a big word from someone whose previous post was 'you're an idiot' did you see a special on Dr phil today on vocabulary?
I wouldn't even really classify Americans as a foreign culture because they have none.
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Golighly is one of the set useful idiots and 'pan slavic' russkie today trolls on here. Blah blah blah usa ia evil...every...freaking...time.

Note quote from 1984 in signature. The irony is 1984 was banned in Russia until 1990 and is still banned in North Korea.
 
Is it so hard to believe that when no-one owns the monopoly on evil, there are no innocents, and no-one adheres to the first stone or do unto other rule? Who needs to ban books when the knowledge gained from reading is culturally rendered moot by ridicule? What use is freedom to speak truth when it has no effect on the abuses of power we endure?
 
It's fair to condemn specific U.S. government policies (especially foreign policy and the brutal and destructive use of military to benefit the bankers and the corporate elite) but since many Americans may be as much opposed to these policies as many non-Americans, it's not fair to condemn all Americans as if we all think alike. We definitely don't...trust me on this.





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smk762 said:
Who needs to ban books when the knowledge gained from reading is culturally rendered moot by ridicule?
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I'll start with the ability to own a copy of 1984 without being imprisoned for it. You worry about the ridicule that is a self inflicted injury due to considering too much about what others think and not what about what is empirically and rationally true. Animal farm was banned outright in Russia by Stalin. Not surprising since it was written about him and like I say until 1990 is was a criminal offence to own a copy of 1984 in Russia. Ridicule does not worry me. Tyranny does.
 
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