I wish I never bought silver

Just as I expected,after reading all the posts,this was a case of frustration and blowing off some steam.Its understandable.We all would prefer that silver shoots up just after we make a decent buy,but thats not how life works.Silver is a volitile commodity and it swings up and down.The faith in silver is that it will swing up again.However no one can say when.As some have stated,if it really bothers you then perhaps silver isnt for you.If I worried about the money I've invested in silver,then I would not sleep at night,and I sleep very well indeed.
 
BootyBandit said:
As it all may seem pointless I believe the training in combat units especially the infantry are superior to any other civillian qualification you can get in the military, as you will gain tremendous mental strength, it breaks the "I cant " barrier in your mind, it teaches you how to push yourself to your body's absolute max, it teaches you to adapt to your environment and surrounding and makes you comfortable anywhere, it builds a strong character that never gives up until the goal is reached and of course self discipline. Whilst you don't earn paper qualifications, you get the qualification of being highly competent to be self employed.

Are you saying that you have a weak character, can't push yourself, give up easily, are incompetent and can not be self-employed?

Or are you saying that you NEED the Army so you will only give up AFTER your goal is reached?

Do you mean to say that if you were in the Army your mental strength would overcome your discouragement on your silver investment, would provide you a greater faith in yourself and your decisions, and you would learn to adapt to your financial environment and feel comfortable in not being able to afford to go parachuting?

That Army sure is something isn't it. Sounds glorious. Here I was thinking it was all just a racket for the financial powers of the world to enforce their will over dissenting populations by weak-minded louts that will do as they're told as long as they are paid well.

Abu Ghraib anyone?
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BootyBandit said:
Newtosilver said:
In the Army you are going to get a lot of injuries (comes with the job), after three Afghan deployments I can tell you it is not a nice place, chances of something happening are several hundred times higher than the RAAF, food is better the RAAF, they are treated better, money is the same, they live in rooms on base during exercises not in a hole in the ground, they shower everyday not fortnightly, they work gentle men's hours and are more "relaxed" about everything.

Lot of respect for the infantry but look after yourself, one thing about defense now as soon as they are done with you it's a pat on the bum a handshake and your out the door...... With the RAAF you have a much longer "service life" and you will come out of it better at the other end.

With any defense job though the money is pretty good, try and get as many qualifications that are civilian recognized as you can, with infantry you may get a lot of weapon qualifications, some range qualifications but not a lot that transfers over to city street.

You should be able to save a fair bit, put it into silver, gold, property, shares or whatever you want but set yourself up for when you get out.....

As it all may seem pointless I believe the training in combat units especially the infantry are superior to any other civillian qualification you can get in the military, as you will gain tremendous mental strength, it breaks the "I cant " barrier in your mind, it teaches you how to push yourself to your body's absolute max, it teaches you to adapt to your environment and surrounding and makes you comfortable anywhere, it builds a strong character that never gives up until the goal is reached and of course self discipline. Whilst you don't earn paper qualifications, you get the qualification of being highly competent to be self employed.

I would have said the same type of thing 20 years ago :) Wish you all the best with it. I suppose it is the same with silver, gold etc hindsight and experience changes perspectives on how you look at things.
 
booty ask yourself what you'd do if you sold out now and the price went past your first buy price? You have a tangible asset, I wouldnt swap something tangible for something paper anyday
 
The advantges of the army are you don't have to take on any personal responsibilty. You're told when & how to eat, sleep & sh!t etc. They supply you with everything you need (except parrachuting or a decent pay cheque) and if anything doesn't go the way you like it, you have the incredible luxury of being able to blame everything on someone above you. It's the ultimate in childish escapism.

Not sure about the 'life experiences' thing though? Most enlisted personel's movements are strongly restricted, even o'seas. It's was once described to me as a 'green prison'.

Ideally if someone wanted to be treated like a baby, have their movement restricted and be physically and verbally abused...there are any number of S&M palours that already operate on the Gold Coast that can look after your needs. And the experience would be over a lot quicker and cost a lot less than signing your life over to the army for 3-5 years.

Unfortunately the main drawback though, (with both options) is once you get out...you're still stuck with being yourself.
 
Sometimes people need to vent...however the question remains...what is the long term objective of buying silver?

Riding the ups and downs is part of the gig...if there is frustration or a sick feeling in the tummy every time the prices drop then managing your emotions will be the thing to do.

We cannot dictate external events only our response to the situation.

go in peace ;-)
 
@Gino, you will never be able to understand what im talking about without going through it, theres a reason why the great leaders in the world were so powerful, Ceasar , Napoleon, Alexander the great, scipio afracanus, its because they were military geniuses, they had a foundation of soldiering which pushes your mental capacity to a whole new level. Im not saying you cant run a business without goin to the army, im saying if you want that extra edge, if you want to take your game to a new level... you know what im not going to bother finishing, you wouldnt understand anyway
 
what about all the fiat i blew chasing women around does that count
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BootyBandit said:
@Gino, you will never be able to understand what im talking about without going through it, theres a reason why the great leaders in the world were so powerful, Ceasar , Napoleon, Alexander the great, scipio afracanus, its because they were military geniuses, they had a foundation of soldiering which pushes your mental capacity to a whole new level. Im not saying you cant run a business without goin to the army, im saying if you want that extra edge, if you want to take your game to a new level... you know what im not going to bother finishing, you wouldnt understand anyway

I was this close to joining the army. Until I pulled my head out of the sky and realised that the wars were illegal, i was fighting for bankers, I'd be fighting innocent people who are defending their land, be getting shot with vaccines, etc. I still think (very often and deeply) of joining the army just to gain the skills you were talking about, but I couldn't live with myself if I had to shoot an innocent.
 
hussman said:
I was this close to joining the army. Until I pulled my head out of the sky and realised that the wars were illegal, i was fighting for bankers, I'd be fighting innocent people who are defending their land, be getting shot with vaccines, etc. I still think (very often and deeply) of joining the army just to gain the skills you were talking about, but I couldn't live with myself if I had to shoot an innocent.


precisely why its hard to have any sympathy for all those british army twats on the verge of getting massive pension payouts, who got sacked, in order to save the army money. fantastic thinking by whoever made that decision. someone kills women & children, and then expects to get a fat pension for it? not bloody likely!
 
hussman said:
BootyBandit said:
@Gino, you will never be able to understand what im talking about without going through it, theres a reason why the great leaders in the world were so powerful, Ceasar , Napoleon, Alexander the great, scipio afracanus, its because they were military geniuses, they had a foundation of soldiering which pushes your mental capacity to a whole new level. Im not saying you cant run a business without goin to the army, im saying if you want that extra edge, if you want to take your game to a new level... you know what im not going to bother finishing, you wouldnt understand anyway

I was this close to joining the army. Until I pulled my head out of the sky and realised that the wars were illegal, i was fighting for bankers, I'd be fighting innocent people who are defending their land, be getting shot with vaccines, etc. I still think (very often and deeply) of joining the army just to gain the skills you were talking about, but I couldn't live with myself if I had to shoot an innocent.
Hey mate, I think your referring to the US Army and the Illuminati theory which is very very misunderstood especially with all the youtube videos that are referencing it and although there are facts in the Illuminati, ALOT of it is complete fictional garbage made up to put all the peices together. Im not saying its fake im just saying ive done extensive research myself on it spending hours on just the small facts that conspiracy theorist claim and many have been proven bullshit.

Anyways I dont really want to get into politics, you should definitely do more research on both sides of the story instead of just one and analyze and try to filter out the crap. You should definately re-consider joining as its definitely something you'll never regret
 
there was a case years ago, can't remember if it was the UK or US army, where a non-military person rang up some cannon fodder, and said that he was a high ranking officer, and started barking orders down the line, and the military goons were too scared to challenge him, and just did whatever he said. can't remember the details now, but it was front page news at the time.

if you speak in an authoritative voice, you can order these guys around, even if you're not even in a military. a guy flipping hamburgers at mcdonalds could even do it in his lunch hour, just for fun.
 
You may have a point, however I dont think I misunderstood the world super power and its allies flying across the world to invade a foreign 3rd world country on false pretexes.

Besides there are many different ways to train/discipline yourself, shoot firearms, learn etc. without joining the military.
 
Black_Sun said:
there was a case years ago, can't remember if it was the UK or US army, where a non-military person rang up some cannon fodder, and said that he was a high ranking officer, and started barking orders down the line, and the military goons were too scared to challenge him, and just did whatever he said. can't remember the details now, but it was front page news at the time.

if you speak in an authoritative voice, you can order these guys around, even if you're not even in a military. a guy flipping hamburgers at mcdonalds could even do it in his lunch hour, just for fun.

Also an instance where a fella (facial tatoos, shaved head fairly solid) went berco in a motor vehicle registry office with about 50 people in it, young road workers, people in suits, women and kids etc. only person who acted was a fella in uniform. He got up walked towards the fella, the fella was abusive but stopped dead in his tracks, hurled some more abuse and walked out. Fella in uniform never said a word, defused the situation. No-one hurt, not a word said........

I don't think you would find one person in the Australian military who is a "baby killer" they are your family members, neighbors, sons soccer coach. I think people may be getting a bit carried away.......
 
Newtosilver said:
I don't think you would find one person in the Australian military who is a "baby killer" they are your family members, neighbors, sons soccer coach. I think people may be getting a bit carried away.......

Agreed. Its uncle sam I'm thinking of. But the problem is, that australia like so many other western countries kow tows to what the good ole USA thinks is best. That US base near Hobart is a big mistake.
 
I spent around $4500 on a decent gold detector a couple of years ago. It's still worth around $4000.

So far I have found about 5 ounces of gold with it. Subtract fuel costs and Im not doing too bad.

Last year I sold some nuggets and invested in some silver. I paid relatively high prices for what I have bought but also realised high prices for what I sold so I dont consider myself to have "lost" anything. No large amounts involved and no need to sell at present so not stressed.

I keep reasonably fit, enjoy a great hobby and through persistence get to find my own PMs.

Jumping out of planes is ok, but detecting tends to keep you grounded. :)
 
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