I got cleaned out

Caput Lupinum said:
Would this devalue the bar at all? I like the idea, but if you want to sell it at some point down the track, would a potential buyer be put off from buying it given that there's another stamp on it? What if theres a number of buyers down the track that also want to stamp the bar?

For bars, I think it depends on what the stamp says. It it's something generic enough, and you have individual number stamps with it, to put on your own serial numbers as it were, it probably wouldn't hurt much. For example, "MM Stack SN#0001". I doubt though that coins would be able to be stamped, they'd be too small with too much area used for the actual design.
 
I'm curious as to whether or not you filed a police report and what their response was
 
tozak said:
Do you know what year the Sovereigns were? They might be the key to identifying the stash if it all stays together.

Good call - the few things that are probably more specific are as follows. The sovereigns are carded and graded.

Austrian Ducat 1915
Gold Sovereign 1888 Melbourne graded eF
Gold Sovereign 1896 Melbourne graded VF+
Gold Sovereign 1893 London graded aVF
LM 10g gold ingot (sn - AIU086)
 
Mickroy said:
LM 10g gold ingot (sn - AIU086)

LM is rarely surfaced in Australia, as they are from Indonesia. As far as i know from SS, only Aurora has them. This could be a stand out from the pack.
 
Mickroy said:
Thank you all for the support.

I'll post a pic of the safe tomorrow. It wasn't anything particularly heavy duty unfortunately. Although, the damage to the hardwood floor was substantial, so who's to say if I had a heavier safe it would have helped?

The what if's have been flying around in my head for the last few days. Did I tell someone about it I shouldn't have? Did I tell someone too much on SS in a private trade? I have no idea. I grew up in a regional north Qld where we never even locked our doors when we went out, so maybe I've been too blas, too trusting somewhere along the line without realising it. I should have done this, that, and so on...

All I can be thankful for now is that no one was hurt as someone mentioned, that my pregnant wife was not home alone for example. The humanity of it is really stressful. The ferocity of which the place was turned upside down, and the total disregard for the life we've built are hard pills to swallow. Like many of you I'm sure, we weren't born with a silver spoon - and what we lost represents the limited lifestyle we lead; all the nights out we turned down, the new big screen TV we didn't buy, etc, etc. I don't think I'll be back trading on here in a long time if ever. I seem to suck at every attempt at self sufficiency I've ever made.

Anyways, enough whinging. I'll put some pics up tomorrow as someone may get something out of it.

Man, my wife's expecting also (any day now). To hear this has happened to you & your family at this time just makes me so angry.
 
DanielM said:
I'm curious as to whether or not you filed a police report and what their response was

Yes, we had them around straight away that night. They came again in the morning to check up on us, and crime scenes came later that day to do photos and prints. It was all pretty much just the formality of it & pretty lax, but I didn't expect much out of it. They have a full inventory, etc, but as far as them actually getting out there and talking to people, visiting pawn brokers, etc... I doubt it. They said they were going to talk to the neighbours and didn't, so we did.
 
For those who are interested. Door is gone, it's somewhere in the bottom of the bin. It was substantially thicker than the rest of the unit, but still extremely damaged.

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What was the weight of that unit? Looks like a hotel room style safe :/

Safes really are a case of you get what you pay for :(

PM me the full list of what was taken and I will put it on the Australian Bullion Dealers Network on LinkedIn.
 
Mickroy said:
DanielM said:
I'm curious as to whether or not you filed a police report and what their response was

Yes, we had them around straight away that night. They came again in the morning to check up on us, and crime scenes came later that day to do photos and prints. It was all pretty much just the formality of it & pretty lax, but I didn't expect much out of it. They have a full inventory, etc, but as far as them actually getting out there and talking to people, visiting pawn brokers, etc... I doubt it. They said they were going to talk to the neighbours and didn't, so we did.
Police will have all this on their system .You maybe very surprised what comes up.The cops are not useless .The fact you reported this quick is very good.
 
I think more often than not the police know who have committed a crime, but there's a long way between knowing something, and having enough evidence to charge, prosecute and convict - knowing simply isn't good enough :(
 
goldpelican said:
I think more often than not the police know who have committed a crime, but there's a long way between knowing something, and having enough evidence to charge, prosecute and convict - knowing simply isn't good enough :(

Cops will charge if they have a sniff in Qld.
Prosections are a decision for the DPP and the convictions are for the Judge.
Three different teams not always on the same page.
 
Hmm in Vic they seem keen on ensuring they can secure a conviction before they will charge - at least on some matters.
 
goldpelican said:
I think more often than not the police know who have committed a crime, but there's a long way between knowing something, and having enough evidence to charge, prosecute and convict - knowing simply isn't good enough :(

From personal experience, there is also a long way between having a clearly defined situation, and having cops willing to get off their asses and do their job.
 
Ozboy said:
goldpelican said:
Starting to think more members have lost metal by holding it than not.

Time to consider a private members storage facility?

Unallocated is good that way - as long as it is backed by physical.
I started up a online account with GS,simple,easy & no fuss.
 
finchy said:
Ozboy said:
goldpelican said:
Starting to think more members have lost metal by holding it than not.

Time to consider a private members storage facility?

Unallocated is good that way - as long as it is backed by physical.
I started up a online account with GS,simple,easy & no fuss.
Sad to say it but I agree, like to see someone take a can opener to the PMDS
 
Mickroy said:
For those who are interested. Door is gone, it's somewhere in the bottom of the bin. It was substantially thicker than the rest of the unit, but still extremely damaged.

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That's not a safe. That's a metal box that was bolted to the floor.

I wonder what (if any) difference a heavy duty safe (100kg+) would have made? At the very least they may have been spotted by neighbors while trying to move it.
 
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