hihosilver said:
Sorry, but I'm reading between the lines here that you maybe another "oh, my dog has never done that before...."
Sorry but you weren't reading between the lines, you were making huge assumptions and then basing your argument on those assumptions.
hihosilver said:
you maybe another "oh, my dog has never done that before...." by default in your passage you seem to be fully aware of the damage your dog can inflict on another "fluff" ball of a dog but also any humans nearby so, that in it self screams to me that your dog is a dog that would attack at will ! :/
What I AM fully aware of is that I have a large male Rottweiler and even people who own dogs let alone people that don't like dogs are intimidated just by his appearance, having one off leash would scare the crap out of almost anyone. Also we regularly see other dogs off leash and if my dog was off leash there's a big risk of them running onto the road while playing. My keeping him on leash is part of being a responsible owner and not wanting to make people uncomfortable and also to avoid a potential traffic hazard. Nothing to do with "me being aware of the damage my dog can inflict".
We always go to this fully fenced park often where my Rottie gets to interact with these fluff balls off leash and you know what happens? They chase each other around for a while and then my Rottie ends up rolling around on his back with the little dog jumping all over him. Any humans near by will get slimed on. I know for a fact that no one will be "attacked at will". Once again, all assumptions.
hihosilver said:
See, your Rottweiler (German Shepherds, Bull Terrier(s), bull dogs, Rhodesian Ridgebacks, included) will always feel the need to enforce their position in the dog hierarchy and you will not stop it.
It is true that these large working breeds are naturally quite dominant (never did I argue otherwise) but in saying that, as I mentioned before, thats where socialization and continued training for the life of the dog comes into play.
hihosilver said:
Yes you raised it from a pup when it licked you to death but would you leave that same dog near anyone else but yourself???
Yes I would and I have many times before with no troubles what so ever. With strangers? hell no but I wouldn't leave my kids with strangers either.
hihosilver said:
I've had this same conversation for many years with many of my friends who are dog lovers and I absolutely love how they change their minds when they have kids. Suddenly, it's "oh, you were so right" where can I get rid of it? when they have had a close miss.
What breeds were they and how was their dog selected/raised/trained?
hihosilver said:
BTW, even a collie will attack if put in a situation. As a kid I was attacked by our very much loved collie and was in hospital for 8 weeks nearly loosing my eye so, don't be fooled by the breed of the dog and remember they are animals not humans like some people think
Thats a point I always try to make to people that point the finger at these large breed dogs and paint them as 'aggressive breeds'. It is actually ALL dogs that can potentially be agressive. Its just that larger breeds are able to do more damage so thats why you NEED to be on top of things with them. Problem is most people fail in that capacity. Here we are in agreement so theres no argument there.
hihosilver said:
but when you have an attack dog as a pet be very aware
A rottweiler is not an attack dog unless it was trained specifically to do so. It is a working dog first and foremost.
hihosilver said:
therefore the temperament of that dog doesn't make any difference because it's in the genes and you can not breed it out.
Based on an assumption but I'll bite anyway.
No, its not in its genes. My dogs breeder follows a strict code of ethics and selects the sire and dam carefully based on their physical conformation and temperament in accordance with the breed standard. This process has been done for many generations from a long line of proven Rottweilers both in the working and show capacity. Any aggressiveness will only come due to a genetic anomaly and is quickly weeded out. Those dogs are never made available to homes and definitely not suitable to breed. But with such strict breeding practices, this is a rarity.
Aggressiveness is not a desired trait for the breed. The Rottweiler was originally used for many duties including the guarding of livestock. Wouldn't be much good if it killed all the sheep now would it?
And yes, aggressiveness can be bred out. Its how we we were able to start to domesticate wolves and has been supported by the Belyaev Experiment.
That is why I advocate only approaching legitimate breeders especially if it involves large working breeds. I brought home a beautiful, stable puppy. From that point on, it was up to me to commit my life to the dog and put in countless hours of hard work raising it. It was what I had to do to be a responsible owner and my duty towards my family, friends, community, the breeder, myself and most of all my dog. All worth it though!