Hand pours

Can anyone (especially humbolt) explain why some bars are marked 925 1oz (which I know is sterling) and others are marked 585 1ozt, but they appear to be the same size?
Surely if one is half the purity of the other it should be twice the size to contain a full troy ounce of silver?

They are certainly nice looking shiny bars.
 
humbolt said:
Gday all the 585 bars are Au 925s are Ag all are 1ozt unless not marked with the weight
bit hard to see color in the pics
theyre as they come out the mold except the stamped design ones theyre polished
bears claw with W and R is my usual makers mark
cheers

humbolt
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So the silver content of the 585 bars are .585 oz of silver and the 925 bars contain .925 oz of silver and the total weight of the bar is 1 oz?
 
PeacePeople said:
humbolt said:
Gday all the 585 bars are Au 925s are Ag all are 1ozt unless not marked with the weight
bit hard to see color in the pics
theyre as they come out the mold except the stamped design ones theyre polished
bears claw with W and R is my usual makers mark
cheers

humbolt
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So the silver content of the 585 bars are .585 oz of silver and the 925 bars contain .925 oz of silver and the total weight of the bar is 1 oz?
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FTFY

So the silver content of the 585 bars are .585 oz of GOLD and the 925 bars contain .925 oz of silver and the total weight of the bar is 1 oz?
 
I think the question is: is that 1oz of pure silver/gold?

i.e. is the spot value of one of those 1oz bars equal to the spot price shown on the graphs at the top of the page?
 
Correct me if I'm wrong but the .585 and .925 is the percentage of silver or gold in the item, so 92.5% is silver and the rest is made up of other alloys. Same with the 58.5% is gold and the rest is other metals. 1oz refers to the total weight of the bar regardless of the percentage of silver or gold to alloy ratio
 
There seems to be some confusion over the actual weight of Precious metal content in each bar ,,be they Ag or Au

kapiche?
 
Boyou said:
There seems to be some confusion over the actual weight of Precious metal content in each bar ,,be they Ag or Au

kapiche?
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I understand how it works, people are asking for clarification
 
Sa_bogan said:
Boyou said:
There seems to be some confusion over the actual weight of Precious metal content in each bar ,,be they Ag or Au

kapiche?
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I understand how it works, people are asking for clarification
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Sorry ,my post was hastily conceived.
I think we need humbolt on the line to clarify and edify. :)
 
Ok ,thanks for the email ,humbolt
The Au is 14 karat and the Ag is Sterling. Thanks
 
As compared to humbolt's (now clear) system, large scale makers normally make their product weight more than an ounce so that the total metal content in a bar/coin is one troy ounce, regardless of the purity...

Example - krugerrands. 22k gold, one troy ounce of gold per coin, therefore coin must weigh a bit more than an ounce...
 
humbolt said:
i get it... its just for fun not profit but 1 troy ounce of 14karat Au is far more affordable than 24K 14k is around a 1000 dollars an ounce whereas 24k is around 1700 and it can be used for example take it to any "decent"jeweller and it can immediatley be used to make something for your missus kid or partner etc but pure 24 or fine silver cannot so for me its the 925 and Karated Au multi functional stuff though i have pure bullion too but thats just me and when the world TTS start makin trade stuff out of ur metal

and if ya aint meltin yet then do it!!!!!!!!!!! humbolt
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Humbolt .. i dont think they were having a dig there mate
 
I have my first pour today but it didn't come out 100% as I need to practice. I'll be uploading tonight as I'm going to make another attempt so wish me luck!
 
Here I have a mold I had made with my own logo inscribed
This was the first pour that I poured a little to slowly
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Then I gave it another shot and added more than one oz in the crucible, turned out ok but just over weight
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Then the 3rd and 4th pour were way over because I wanted to make sure it filled the mold and came out in bar form
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All three here front and back. Do you guys think I should try to sand e borax off the backs? I only ask is I was able to get some ripple effect and I know it would sand away
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I have other molds but I'm waiting to get my steel letter punch set in the mail this week

Anyone interested in my design? PM are my initials and the b is for bullion

Click the last photo for larger images
 
Cheers, hopefully I will have more silver to melt this week. Anyone wish to trade at all? I'll be removing the borax from the bottoms.

Also did any one want me to make a video? I'm not a pro but it might help if your not sure how to go about it.
 
SA_bogan, I would love a video, I have all the pieces somewhat . . . just haven't started yet. I haven't found a good stamp yet and sourcing to have one made they quoted like $150 . . soooo it might be a bit before I start.
 
Tough looking bars. Shame the photos aren't bigger. I'm guessing you are using graphite molds with you logo debossed across the bottom. I saw in a youtube video of some guys doing a pour. They had lined the silicate crucible in borax I think so the silver would all run out of it when it was tipped, like water off a ducks back :). Also they used the oxy torch they where using to melt the silver to also heat up the mold itself so all the melted silver would have the time to seep into every nook and cranny of the mold before solidifying. I imagine putting too much heat onto the molds couldn't be good for them. Probably reduce their life expectancy quite a bit.
Thanks for posting Sa_bogan :D.
 
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