Good Article on White Spots - hopefully gets some attention!!

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A favor for the entire community please:

For those who purchase lots of Perth Mint bullion coins, please make a short list of the coins that you believe (based on your observations) have the most milk spotting problem.

The more people who compile such a short list, the better idea we can have of which PM coins are the biggest problem in terms of spots.



For those who purchase lots of Royal Mint or Royal Canadian Mint bullion coins, please make a short list of the coins that you believe (based on your observations) have the most milk spotting problem.



It will be interesting to see when we compare lists, if there are clear winners (far less spot problems) and losers among bullion coins.


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Can we oso include toning?

My observations across the trades:
1) WHITE SPOT:
- S2 Lunar dragon 1oz bullion
- S2 Lunar Goat 1kg
- RCM Maple and all recent years wildlife series bullion

2) TONNING
- S2 Mouse 1oz bullion
- S2 Snake 1oz bullion

Do you see toning as a good thing or not good thing? Seems like lots of people love certain natural toning on coins. I have mixed feelings about it. Also, I think toning is exclusively about the environment the coin is kept in and the age (everything else being equal) and nothing to do with manufacturing processes.

White spots, on the other hand, seems to be a by-product of a cost cutting manufacturing process.

White spots and toning are two different worlds it would seem.






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[Holdfast]

Bummer about the colorized Dragon. What size is it?

I checked some 2012 1 oz High Relief proof Dragons last night. No spots.

On another note I checked some 1 oz bu Pandas. The 2012's had some spotting. I've got a couple 2008 slabbed and they're fine.

2011 2 oz Proof Libertads were also fine.

Size = 1oz and 1/2oz Red Coloured Dragon proof.

I haven't seen milk-spots on any of the Silver Dragon 1/2oz, 1oz, 5oz proofs or High relief 1oz coins.

Was very disappointed with the coloured proofs. "Thanks Perth"

 

[Holdfast]

I still buy a few of their coins for the errors.

Did you notice how many claws / talons the red coloured Dragon has?

The stamp printer at Perth must of been high on fumes and... the quality control staff were on a Chinese noodle break!

What was your claw / talon count on the 1oz?

 

[Jislizard]

Great, now I have to make sure I never look too closely at my Dragon collection, I thought 2012 was before the issues started arising, I thought I was safe as that was the last time I bought the lunars big time.

The Central Bank is offering purchasers of the 10 silver proof Eileen Gray commemorative coin the option of getting their money back after a blemish was discovered on some of the coins.
It's understood that some of the coins, which are manufactured by a UK based company, have a slight blemish, or cloudiness, a characteristic not associated with proof quality coins.
"We have received some limited customer feedback about the condition of this commemorative coin. We wish to assure our customers that we take this feedback very seriously and will offer them a refund or replacement of their Eileen Gray commemorative coin. People may also wish to retain their coin," according to the Central Bank.

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/...eimburse-buyers-of-eileen-gray-coin-1.2977981

 

[badhop55]

Looked at a 2012 Kilo Proof Dragon last night. No spots. (It was a little tense leading up to me opening my eyes). Also some bullion Koalas, 2007-2010, no spots. Additionally I checked several sets of 2010 bullion 5 oz ATBs. Again spot free... For now.

 

[Vezpit]

This problem seems to be even in some coins of less than 999. I have 3 Maria Teresa restrikes with the spotting. These coins are very much uncirculated & I assume they are recent restrikes.

 

[Coins A-Z]

The problem is not with the purity of the silver coin, but rather with the current minting process employed by what appears to be most of the major mints.