Gold Beware 1152

Martin Armstrong Jan 10th


Gold Beware 1152

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The Monthly Bearish Reversal lies at 1152 and the drop previously was to 1151.40. A monthly closing beneath this 1152 area will open the door to a further decline. The technical support lines up also with the 1980 high area of $875. The first quarter here in 2014 looks choppy, but thereafter, get ready for the increase in volatility. Even the oscillators show this ain't over yet until the fat lady sings as they say. Yet they never get tired of painting every sharp break as just another manipulation. I really do not understand if that is support to suggest that they are not wrong even though the price keeps pressing lower? To these diehards, it seems that gold has become a hedge against making money. Gold will have its day in the sun, but it is just not yet ready for prime time. It is still an off-Broadway show.
 
2008 low to 2011 high has 61.8 fib @ 1156ish at least worth a bounce if not the bottom IMHO

AND

A low of 1156ish to the high of 2011 puts the 50% fib @ 1538 (Strong res)
 
Armstrong has always maintained that the next big Bull run will not commence until late 2015. He is merely stating that if the Gold price falls below $1151 then expect further decline and people will lose money waiting. FWIW, I will not buy until he says so, he has been very accurate up until now.
If you have purchased for the long run and have no reason to sell then don't fret, buy more in the next decline.

"but whats with the 8-bit VGA colors?" That's his laptop where he keeps a very basic version of his software in case it's gets stolen.
 
Why wait for the decline keep buying .It may never happen.It will just take a big hammer to fall one night and?????????? I have noticed one thing people have short memories re PMs and politics . History tends to repeat itself .All the pouring over of charts will not help when the hammer falls it will fall. Maybe Im stirring up a hornets nest from the chartists. LOL.
 
VANGBAC said:
Why wait for the decline keep buying .It may never happen.It will just take a big hammer to fall one night and?????????? I have noticed one thing people have short memories re PMs and politics . History tends to repeat itself .All the pouring over of charts will not help when the hammer falls it will fall. Maybe Im stirring up a hornets nest from the chartists. LOL.


Keep buying for the long run, YES. For short term gain, NO.

Global Market Watch January 9th, 2014
http://armstrongeconomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/METPGSO-01-09-2014.pdf
 
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China's FX Research Center: Gold Is The Strategy

First of all I would like to thank all my translators, my sources in Asia, my commenters and readers. It's amazing what this blog, through the efforts by all of you, has accomplished: worldwide attention and an important addition to the gold community. Thanks you all very much!

The next translation I present is from a speech by Tan Ya Ling, President of the China Foreign Exchange Investment Research Institute, given on a gold conference May 7, 2013 Beijing. Probably it's not the whole speech as the title of the original article mentions oil, but the article itself doesn't.

When I googled Tan Ya Ling I found a site that sells a video box (2013) from Tan Ya Ling called Currency Wars. A concept the Chinese have been familiar with for many years. In 2007 a book, that oddly hasn't been translated in English, came out with the same title, written by Song Hongbing. A quote about this book from Wikipedia (please click and read):

Currency Wars by Song Hongbing, is a bestseller in China, reportedly selling over 200,000 copies in addition to an estimated 400,000 pirated copies in circulation and is reportedly being read by many senior level government and business leaders in China. Originally published in 2007 the book gained a resurgence in 2009 and is seen as a prominent exponent of a recently emerged genre labeled "economic nationalist" literature.

The book looks back at history and argues that fiatcurrency itself is a conspiracy; it sees in the abolition of representative currency and the installment of fiat currency a struggle between the "banking clique" and the governments of the western nations, ending in the victory of the former. It advises the Chinese government to keep a vigilant eye on China's currency and instate a representative currency. The book, published in 2007, also correctly described and warned of the various forms of derivative speculation used by WallStreet which eventually became the causes of massive margin call sell offs and the stock market crash in late 2008.


Tan Ya Ling: Gold Is The Strategy, Crude Oil Is The Tool


May 7, 2013, BeijingHosted by the Capital University of Economics and Business, the Gold Market Research Center, Jingyi Gold Co. and CPM Group, is the first gold market discussion and development trend research: The World Gold Market Investment Report. The press conference was held on the 7th of May in Beijing. Hexun.com reports exclusive on this conference. Tan Ya Ling, President of the China Foreign Exchange Investment Research Institute states that the gold price will definitely rise:


"The [price] movement has created a unique phenomenon, that is, gold has gone through three waves. The First wave was mainly need based, the second wave was mainly investment based, and now we have entered the third wave, which is mainly venture based.

From another angle, the risk of the collapse of the Euro and the gold price. I state that I believe in the eventual collapse of the Euro. How do we look at the gold price in light of that event? The gold price right now has a connection to Europe. Europe lacks money, Europe has gold. All the European Countries hold significant high gold reserves relative to total reserves, the lowest is 40%, the highest is 70%, with Portuguese as high as 90%. They have accumulated this much gold, but having difficulty funding their budget, so what are the controller's tricks into selling their gold? It will certainly strengthen the number one position of the US.

Further, is there a risk of losing control of the dollar and the gold price? Can the US continue to be this strong over longer periods of time? There is a risk here, these things trend in cycles. It's worth to note the dollar's potential risk, and such risk might be exposed and may even explode. There might be a possibility of a reshuffling of the international monetary system. Gold right now is priced in dollars, but more importantly is what the price of gold will do to the meaning of the dollar.

The focus of the discussion indicated that the prejudice of the supremacy of the dollar, and the strength and weakness of the dollar, are different from the policy of the dollar and the policy of the US. This distinction needs to be clarified. Facing the global monetary system, the US dollar cannot be replaced in the short term, it is hard to be replaced in the midterm, but in the long term it prepares to replace itself. It thinks far in the future, it thinks very deeply, very thoroughly. The key is whether we have thought about this, whether we have thought clearly about it, whether we have thought it through. The gold market has different facets like the physical gold market, paper contracts, RMB denominated and dollar denominated products. Why do we only store the physical gold? If we over store our physical gold, others will come prepared for it specifically. Our physical gold has been overly developed. Even if the gold price is really good, and the gold has more growing trends, it still needs to have a good proportion, it cannot cross the line. This is our nucleus of warning signs for risk and of assets allocation. We cannot deploy assets by following the price; we have to deploy assets by our own ability, following the change of the market.

Therefore the topic of gold is not that simple. Gold is closely related to the whole financial market and the macro economy. Therefore I especially agree with what Zhang Bing Nan said this morning. He stressed the word "theory". We need to find our own theory; yet we are in a time that lacks theory. China did not rely on numbers, but on concepts to catch the world's attention. Chinese economic development and the gold market's development have to follow China's own theory. This is the most basic reason for us to dominate the market, to take root in the market."
http://www.ingoldwetrust.ch/chinas-fx-research-center-gold-strategy
 
The Road Home said:
Armstrong has always maintained that the next big Bull run will not commence until late 2015. He is merely stating that if the Gold price falls below $1151 then expect further decline and people will lose money waiting. FWIW, I will not buy until he says so, he has been very accurate up until now.

Well it does also depend on what part of the world you are in and what currency your cash is in.

If you deal with US dollars then following his advice might be fine but if you deal in AUD you might find that even if gold is lower in 2015 it may well be higher when priced in AUD.


Credit Crunch said:
If gold goes sub $1,150 and through it properly, like to $1,120 etc, then there's not a trading floor under it and $1,000 could be broken. Should gold go sub $1,100 and all else in the world being equal, I would look to rotate some cash from the sidelines into the metal.

What if it's not equal - what if the AUD is 0.70 by then ? Gold will be $1570 in AUD.


Gold could simply fall because of a surge in the US dollar in the event of another crisis unfolding.
Last time that happened in 2008, the AUD dropped like a stone and gold in AUD went sky high, even though it was falling in USD.
 
The Road Home said:
Armstrong has always maintained that the next big Bull run will not commence until late 2015.

How long have you been following him for? I've been following what he has been saying for the past 3 years and his time line have always been a bit vague. His has never said for sure 2015, but has giving his self a few years + & - to when the bull market could start depending on whats happening at the time. So it could start now or could start in 2 or 3 years time.
 
leo25 said:
The Road Home said:
Armstrong has always maintained that the next big Bull run will not commence until late 2015.

How long have you been following him for? I've been following what he has been saying for the past 3 years and his time line have always been a bit vague. His has never said for sure 2015, but has giving his self a few years + & - to when the bull market could start depending on whats happening at the time. So it could start now or could start in 2 or 3 years time.

Every time I checked up on one of his predictions, he was wrong. Yet he always claimed he was right. He claimed to have predicted dates of events that had no actual date. I did enjoy reading his historical comments, but then I got to thinking that maybe the historical information was as fake as a lot of his market claims. At that point, I pretty much lost interest.
 
Credit Crunch said:
If gold goes sub $1,150 and through it properly, like to $1,120 etc, then there's not a trading floor under it and $1,000 could be broken. Should gold go sub $1,100 and all else in the world being equal, I would look to rotate some cash from the sidelines into the metal.

He states $950 max before the next uptrend.

trew said:
The Road Home said:
Armstrong has always maintained that the next big Bull run will not commence until late 2015. He is merely stating that if the Gold price falls below $1151 then expect further decline and people will lose money waiting. FWIW, I will not buy until he says so, he has been very accurate up until now.

Well it does also depend on what part of the world you are in and what currency your cash is in.

If you deal with US dollars then following his advice might be fine but if you deal in AUD you might find that even if gold is lower in 2015 it may well be higher when priced in AUD.

Yes true, that's something to put into your equation when buying.

leo25 said:
The Road Home said:
Armstrong has always maintained that the next big Bull run will not commence until late 2015.

How long have you been following him for? I've been following what he has been saying for the past 3 years and his time line have always been a bit vague. His has never said for sure 2015, but has giving his self a few years + & - to when the bull market could start depending on whats happening at the time. So it could start now or could start in 2 or 3 years time.

He's vague unless your a paid member although when you decipher his manner/style, you can still obtain good infomation. He has said to be exact 2015.75 is when the confidence model turns to the downside.

dccpa said:
leo25 said:
The Road Home said:
Armstrong has always maintained that the next big Bull run will not commence until late 2015.

How long have you been following him for? I've been following what he has been saying for the past 3 years and his time line have always been a bit vague. His has never said for sure 2015, but has giving his self a few years + & - to when the bull market could start depending on whats happening at the time. So it could start now or could start in 2 or 3 years time.

Every time I checked up on one of his predictions, he was wrong. Yet he always claimed he was right. He claimed to have predicted dates of events that had no actual date. I did enjoy reading his historical comments, but then I got to thinking that maybe the historical information was as fake as a lot of his market claims. At that point, I pretty much lost interest.

He has been far more correct than anyone else and yes I have been following him since I gave up on Hyperinflation, US dollar end and so on. All predictions still pushed by others. People I might add with vested interests.
 
The Road Home said:
Credit Crunch said:
If gold goes sub $1,150 and through it properly, like to $1,120 etc, then there's not a trading floor under it and $1,000 could be broken. Should gold go sub $1,100 and all else in the world being equal, I would look to rotate some cash from the sidelines into the metal.

He states $950 max before the next uptrend.

trew said:
The Road Home said:
Armstrong has always maintained that the next big Bull run will not commence until late 2015. He is merely stating that if the Gold price falls below $1151 then expect further decline and people will lose money waiting. FWIW, I will not buy until he says so, he has been very accurate up until now.

Well it does also depend on what part of the world you are in and what currency your cash is in.

If you deal with US dollars then following his advice might be fine but if you deal in AUD you might find that even if gold is lower in 2015 it may well be higher when priced in AUD.

Yes true, that's something to put into your equation when buying.

leo25 said:
The Road Home said:
Armstrong has always maintained that the next big Bull run will not commence until late 2015.

How long have you been following him for? I've been following what he has been saying for the past 3 years and his time line have always been a bit vague. His has never said for sure 2015, but has giving his self a few years + & - to when the bull market could start depending on whats happening at the time. So it could start now or could start in 2 or 3 years time.

He's vague unless your a paid member although when you decipher his manner/style, you can still obtain good infomation. He has said to be exact 2015.75 is when the confidence model turns to the downside.

dccpa said:
leo25 said:
How long have you been following him for? I've been following what he has been saying for the past 3 years and his time line have always been a bit vague. His has never said for sure 2015, but has giving his self a few years + & - to when the bull market could start depending on whats happening at the time. So it could start now or could start in 2 or 3 years time.

Every time I checked up on one of his predictions, he was wrong. Yet he always claimed he was right. He claimed to have predicted dates of events that had no actual date. I did enjoy reading his historical comments, but then I got to thinking that maybe the historical information was as fake as a lot of his market claims. At that point, I pretty much lost interest.

He has been far more correct than anyone else and yes I have been following him since I gave up on Hyperinflation, US dollar end and so on. All predictions still pushed by others. People I might add with vested interests.

When I followed him about 2-3 years ago, he missed ever single prediction that was made public, but he claimed 100% accuracy. I am still waiting for his AUD to be double the USD prediction to come true.
 
dccpa said:
When I followed him about 2-3 years ago, he missed ever single prediction that was made public, but he claimed 100% accuracy. I am still waiting for his AUD to be double the USD prediction to come true.


Do you have a link to this?
 
dccpa said:
When I followed him about 2-3 years ago, he missed ever single prediction that was made public, but he claimed 100% accuracy.

yea I've always scratched my head with this too. Not sure how he claims 100%, though I wouldn't say he got 100% wrong either.

I've always found him to be like everyone else that tries to make timed prediction, way off. He gives a lot of variables, so if (A) happens then X will happen in 2013, if (C) happens then X will happen in 2014 and so on... Thus not really making it a prediction.

If you make enough forecast you are bound to get one right here and there. Like they say, even a broken clock is right twice a day.


But i still do enjoy listening to his view as i do a lot of other people, but always take it with a pinch of salt.
 
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