FS 1oz Perth Mint Gold Certicard

I have only been on this forum for a short time but it has quickly become my most visited website.

I love it.

I have learned a lot, talked to a lot of great people and bought some nice silver.

However, My confidence in buying off this forum has been shaken.

I also purchased one of these bars from Carloc, only after he stated that all of his gold had been XRF tested.

Now, I don't know if my bar is a fake also.

I am in country Vic and am sure there is nowhere locally to test the bar.

This was my first gold purchase.

We did a f 2 f in Melbourne last Sunday.

Carloc seemed like a straight forward decent guy.

I am sure that he would not have set out to intentionally sell fakes.

I will now have to come back into Melb to get it tested in the next few days.

I will let you know the result.

If there is a problem I am sure Carloc will do the right thing.

Thank you forum members for your vigilance.
I have a Sigma like golden monkey if you want to send to me to test for you?

Let me know mate
 
So glad we have the support of the community here. Such a shame, as all of this could have been avoided if only Carlo had sent side pictures of the bar beforehand. A fake is a fake is a fake, unless specified as such, it should not be sold as genuine. And if a mistake has been it should be rectified by the seller immediately, in this case Carlo, since it's trust that has to exist between buyer and seller for any trade to happen. I do know for a fact that most in this community are honest, genuine sellers and buyers, even though I have only done a limited trade on here myself and that is because I read the forums and people's feedbacks. I do hope that Carlo comes good for GM, I would hate to see him suffer a loss.
 
Carloc...Its been a week since this has been picked up as a fake.
If you were TRULY genuine the funds would have been reimbursed already.
Now...if you have been unfortunate enough to buy these from someone else then you chasing them for reimbursement should have no impact on the persons you have, according to you inadvertently wronged.
Pony up the funds paid to you for the fakes and chase whomever sold to you on your own time.
 
This is a very serious matter. I would report it to the Perth Mint and the police. The seller should refund the money right away.

And let this be a lesson for everyone. Unless you have a lot of experience and are given a high quality photo to go by, do not buy of random people. Rather go somewhere that is an official distributed for Perth Mint.
 
That is the best fake i have ever seen in my life, so obviously i know nothing about modern fake certicards.... We have all been warned....

No it's not. Anyone with both experience and a good eye can easily see its fake. And that's the issue, most people don't have experience or a good eye.

Also that fact that the sell posted a really crappy photo and no side shot is another big warning bell for me.
 
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This has dragged out long enough, and the more that gets said the more Carloc might not respond

Groges has his address, and Yuri has met him F2F. If he doesn't refund you then get the police involved and provide all of his details to them

Carloc, you said it was XRF tested which was a lie, so pay back GM straight away, and you can chase up the person you bought from (If that's even true) in your own time. It's ridiculous that you think you shouldn't have to pay him back because you got sold a fake (which you said was real)
 
I am so stressed at the moment and my faith in humanity is at a very low level.

As things stand at the moment Carloc is not out of pocket on anything as he has transferred that onto Gm and myself.
 
It appears that the sale of fake bars were intentional. I raised concerns about the bar's authenticity before the sale, but he ignored my request for more photos and reassured everyone about the xrf result (clearly a lie).

Also, the SPOT price with SPOT gaining momentum lures honest individual to take the risk...
Why isnt any "honest buyers" buying my gold?
https://www.silverstackers.com/forums/index.php?threads/wts-10-gram-gold-bars-and-round-50s.86151/
 
Prior to this Carloc was doing swaps, Large silver coins for 1 oz coins did anyone take those offers up? He msg'd me pictures on my phone of a 1 kilo snake coin and then followed up saying he had other interested parties so i needed to make a deal that evening... Did anyone take up his offers for swaps on silver???
 
one thing I cannot abide is deceit, profiting from the demise of others, that's about as low as you can go as a stacker. If you cant be upfront about your lie to begin with and admit fault, then still refuse a refund to an innocent party now that you have been sprung, where is your decency, honour and humility Carloc???. I am disgusted. Its been 8 days since the sale, and far, far too long in my book.

Unlike Silverbandit007 for me your credentials will NEVER be reinstated, you have brought deliberate dishonour to the forum, it is unforgivable. I have some very strong words buzzing around my mind regarding this matter and the seller, I best leave it there I think.
 
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