France bans postage of gold and silver

[Ronnie 666]

http://silverdoctors.com/france-bans-shipment-of-gold-silver-in-the-mail/

I don't know if there are any French SS members but this will certainly curtail their purchase and sale of PM ? Are other Western countries likely to follow ?

Sorry already posted -

http://forums.silverstackers.com/topic-41122-france-bans-shipment-of-gold-silver-through-mail.html

 

[Matthew 26:14]

I'm not 100% sure but I think postage of cash & pm's is also not permitted by Australia Post.

 

[rbaggio]

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It must be permitted. Many bullion dealers here in Australia use Parcel Post to send bullion.

 

[willrocks]

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It must be permitted. Many bullion dealers here in Australia use Parcel Post to send bullion.

Legally some bullion is against Aust Post's terms.

See this thread:
http://forums.silverstackers.com/message-529530.html#p529530

 

[rbaggio]

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It must be permitted. Many bullion dealers here in Australia use Parcel Post to send bullion.

Legally some bullion is against Aust Post's terms.

See this thread:
http://forums.silverstackers.com/message-529530.html#p529530

So, receiving bullion bars from a bullion dealer using Parcel Post is apparently illegal? Am I reading this right?

 

[willrocks]

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It must be permitted. Many bullion dealers here in Australia use Parcel Post to send bullion.

Legally some bullion is against Aust Post's terms.

See this thread:
http://forums.silverstackers.com/message-529530.html#p529530

So, receiving bullion bars from a bullion dealer using Parcel Post is apparently illegal? Am I reading this right?

That's how I read it for bullion bars. At the very least it's against their terms. Either way, it could put bullion dealers in a precarious position if bullion goes missing.

 

[rbaggio]

OK thanks. I guess thats why the dealer providing insurance (note: not Aust Post insurance) is pretty important.

 

[argento]

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It must be permitted. Many bullion dealers here in Australia use Parcel Post to send bullion.

Legally some bullion is against Aust Post's terms.

See this thread:
http://forums.silverstackers.com/message-529530.html#p529530

So, receiving bullion bars from a bullion dealer using Parcel Post is apparently illegal? Am I reading this right?

Yep....thats my understanding aswell.

Not sure how the Perth Mint gets around it.....especially when insurance is involved :/

I also believe the US have similar postal restriction ( mainly with OS transactions ) ....... aswell as other european countries ( I don't believe France is the first...)

Lucky we have numismatics

 

[tozak]

Australia Post have bullion listed under "Dangerous and Prohibited Goods" while it is illegal to send certain Dangerous goods it is not Illegal to send bullion.

It is lumped in with Dangerous goods however it's only prohibited not illegal and if detected it will be returned to the sender along with a refund on the postage.

However what is illegal is a false declaration, so if you sign to say it is not a prohibited item however you send something prohibited then you have made a false declaration.

At least this was the interpretation / clarification I received when I question Australia Post on it.

 

[Phiber]

The mint ships with Toll, maybe the courier does not have this limitation.

 

[Ronnie 666]

TOLL DISCLOSURE.

Unacceptable or Prohibited Goods for Toll Global Express
Dangerous or Hazardous goods, (bearer), Cheques (bearer or blank), credit cards (activated), money order, promissory notes, share certificates, (bearer), bullion, cash or currency, negotiable instruments in bearer form including: Travellers Cheques (un-cashed), banker's drafts (bearer),bonds. Tickets (open),animal products, plant products and plants (e.g. animal skins, furs, fish, poultry, meat, produce and tobacco), perishable goods, animals, all living creatures and plants, human remains, including ashes, any noxious substance, artwork or antiques, narcotic substances (illegal), pornography, Precious metals and stones, weapons, firearms, parts thereof and ammunition.

 

[MrMango]

Interesting. I have noticed often bullion dealers put on the package that it contains machinery parts.

 

[Phiber]

Interesting. I have noticed often bullion dealers put on the package that it contains machinery parts.

Which is a good idea.

 

[goldpelican]

Keep drawing attention to industry practices guys and pointing out those loopholes that let the industry ship wholesale and retail bullion around the place.

Courier company reps work directly with the industry (trust me, they cold call for the business) - even though the official T&Cs prohibit it - they know what's in the packages. The real problem is with unions that put blanket bans on drivers carrying parcels with these contents - so keep chirping away about it on a public forum, and we'll all be facing counter sales only one day because unions will demand x-rating of all packages to ensure none of that nasty bullion is being carried.

One third party company was close to introducing an Australia-wide bullion courier service that was going to be low cost and publicly accessible - but a union in one state sunk the whole thing. You could have all had insured bullion shipping available for private individuals by now except for their interfering.