familys Gold seized for being transported.

Aurora et luna said:
All businesses give you a receipt for every transaction even for a cup of coffee
Was told that if I walked out without keeping the receipt after buying an item and a tax inspector caught me without a receipt that I would be fined.
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yea i remember being told this when i was in Europe in 2008.
 
DanielM said:
Nothing sus, just a ton of gold under the floor in a car, I'm sure someone who legit has that much money would be able to transport it legally, I have no sympathy for crims


1, I highly doubt it was a Ton and 2, if you had that much gold would you trust telling someone about it yet alone trust someone to transport it. Haven't you seen the Italian job!

So there is very good reason for a legit person to transport it in the manner, even more so today.
 
I have a friend in Vietnam who can smell pure silver as opposed to 925 he has been right up to now.
 
Aurora et luna said:
leo25 said:
I guess the Italian government need that gold to give to the IMF so they stay off their back.

This should be a warning to all. Keep it safe, as desperate governments do desperate things and will create any reason to steal from you.

http://www.bloomberg.com/video/on-t...ized-in-small-car-GcljxRqRSHOURYhlYMcHOw.html


I was in Italy 10 days ago and business is going to the dogs.
After the new pope was picked, I expected Assisi to be packed with pilgrims.
The 30 room hotel that I stayed there for 3 nights had only one guest (me)
Every business owner is complaining about paying too much tax and they are finding it more and more difficult to evade taxes.
The gov is cracking down on tax evasion big time.
All businesses give you a receipt for every transaction even for a cup of coffee
Was told that if I walked out without keeping the receipt after buying an item and a tax inspector caught me without a receipt that I would be fined.
Also I was thinking of bringing some gold coins over there to sell (specifically Sovereigns); wished I did. Would have made a minimum 20% premium above spot.
As an antique dealer told me, he wished he had started stacking gold two years ago to make his assets invisible.
If anyone is thinking of holidaying in Italy soon, it's very good value at the moment.

Yeah the Italians are complaining that the cash (aka tax avoiding) ways of the past are harder to maintain. By law now a receipt has to be issued for every sale. Cumbersome and really peeves them off that they will have to pay tax!
 
pity

1 oz gold smugglers 'button-bars' are so easily swallowed..and...err..."recovered".

no sharp corners you see ;)
 
Sounds like they swapped one bunch of mafia for another :rolleyes:

Matthew 26:14 said:
Aurora et luna said:
leo25 said:
I guess the Italian government need that gold to give to the IMF so they stay off their back.

This should be a warning to all. Keep it safe, as desperate governments do desperate things and will create any reason to steal from you.

http://www.bloomberg.com/video/on-t...ized-in-small-car-GcljxRqRSHOURYhlYMcHOw.html


I was in Italy 10 days ago and business is going to the dogs.
After the new pope was picked, I expected Assisi to be packed with pilgrims.
The 30 room hotel that I stayed there for 3 nights had only one guest (me)
Every business owner is complaining about paying too much tax and they are finding it more and more difficult to evade taxes.
The gov is cracking down on tax evasion big time.
All businesses give you a receipt for every transaction even for a cup of coffee
Was told that if I walked out without keeping the receipt after buying an item and a tax inspector caught me without a receipt that I would be fined.
Also I was thinking of bringing some gold coins over there to sell (specifically Sovereigns); wished I did. Would have made a minimum 20% premium above spot.
As an antique dealer told me, he wished he had started stacking gold two years ago to make his assets invisible.
If anyone is thinking of holidaying in Italy soon, it's very good value at the moment.

Yeah the Italians are complaining that the cash (aka tax avoiding) ways of the past are harder to maintain. By law now a receipt has to be issued for every sale. Cumbersome and really peeves them off that they will have to pay tax!
 
too true. Western governments have become like the mob. they make up the rules (law) as they go - all designed to strip you bare of your wealth
 
Should watch James Bond - movie again Gold Finger.
How gold made into car body parts.
Luckily Im Golden ChipMunk; I can hide gold under my coat no question ask.
It's part of me. ;) with lotsa :lol:
Cheer for the topic.
 
Yippe-Ki-Ya said:
gcsun said:
To be fair, fair chance the gold was stolen or used in money laundering.

Tough titties ... as far as i know the onus should be on the state to produce evidence of such a crime!??!!

if nobody has reported the gold as stolen, then there is no case now is there??

it's all about the presumption of innocence until proven guilty. quickly this principle is being eroded in our socialist western "demockracies" :lol:

It's called civil forfeiture, pioneered extensively in the USA. Because this asset could exist due to it being the proceeds of crime, we are going to seize it just like we would the proven proceeds of crime. The problem is all assets can conceivably be the proceeds of crime, so all assets are at risk. A system open to abuse of procedure.

I posted a video on this here: http://forums.silverstackers.com/to...-the-us-govt-threats-to-private-property.html
 
Emanance said:
From the video it looked pretty well hidden. The cops must of either been tipped off, or the border police have trained their currency sniffing dogs to also detect the scent of precious metals.
Does anybody know if X-Ray Fluorescence Spectrometers (XRF) can penetrate outer layer metals such as a vehicles outer shell or undercarriage?

that was a 100% tip off :rolleyes:

As for that smell? I reckon dogs even though they good at sniffing out other forms of materials could not be trained to pick up the new smell of bacteria when handling gold bars. It was an inside job and I reckon, most likely a dodgy deal and someone including the coppers weren't paid off. BTW, was in leaving Italy or going to Italy?

If dogs could pick up on that gold smell surely every prospector would be training dogs to sniff out nuggets in the bush or at least have them as company and support to the metal detecting :/

For sheep sake, let's hope they don't discover that they are better than dogs to sniff gold out otherwise Brokeback Mountain the sequel will be on the books :lol:
 
Its funny isn't it, I actually have to catch myself sometimes while thinking out loud as some things get labelled as laundering when really it is just that, protecting what you have earned by being a productive member of their society.
 
Its funny isn't it, I actually have to catch myself sometimes while thinking out loud as some things get labelled as laundering when really it is just that, protecting what you have earned by being a productive member of their society.[/quote]

"Offshore tax havens" is a classic label used to describe many legitimate and 100% legal international banking systems. Especially when the government wants to raid what you've got.
 
Funny looking gold bars, I mean they are a funny shape appear to not have stamps like manufacture or purity.
But the kicker is the way they are being easily handed around bars that size would have to weigh 15 to 20 kgs
Now watch the video again. Bars seem to be not very heavy.
 
Chillidog said:
Funny looking gold bars, I mean they are a funny shape appear to not have stamps like manufacture or purity.
But the kicker is the way they are being easily handed around bars that size would have to weigh 15 to 20 kgs
Now watch the video again. Bars seem to be not very heavy.
Very interesting point, they were handling them like 1 kilo bars.
 
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