BeHereNow said:
I have never 'invested' for the marketplace, to have some gain. Call me selfish or a parasite if you will, The market wide scale can diminish by ten fold, but if I come out ahead I have been successful.
I have invested for my personal finances.
If I transfer my fiat into some product, and later transfer it to another product, or back to fiat, with a net gain, my investment has been successful.
You confuse global goals with personal goals.
All investments are gambles, and are meant to increase personal wealth.
Invested in the 'marketplace'?
Do you know what a market is?
It's a situation where people exchange their products and services.
Investments are a part of what happens in this situation.
You confuse a situation with the elements it contains.
Only the central planning thieves and their parasites talk about global goals.
In a free market, the global is just the decentralized-determined result of the X personal actions.
Your 'fiat', is a medium of exchange, a storage of value and a unit of account. Money.
Money in its storage of value role is an intermediary step to what people really wanted, it bridges time, and that's all.
Money is a method of trading, not trading itself. A trade is only finalized when both parties have the products/services they really wanted. Money fills the time inbetween.
Finance is the management of money, thus already implying that it's about allocating over time.
'Investment in finance' is thus another such non-sense, the word 'investment' is doing nothing there, since (and again) it's only a shift from one to another. A gain implying an equal loss elsewhere.
Investments and speculation aren't gambles. With a gamble, the risk only comes into existence the moment that the act of gambling takes place. Much like a slot machine whose lever is pushed. The risk to gain or lose only starts there. It doesn't exist before. Investment / speculation starts from an existing risk. For ex, the risk of an earthquake on a certain location can cause someone to invest in developing construction methods that can sustain them better. The risk of thievery can cause someone to invest in door locks.
The thing is, there are some money for nothing clubbers out there, and they rather prefer the words investment.
My silver isn't my investment. It's my attempt to escape theft. Success is achieved by being able to buy the same value back that I produced. Gain nor loss. No rabbits harmed, only thieves fended off.
And actually, you say it yourself, your usages of the word 'transfer' are exactly that. Unlike an investment, there is no 'more'. There is just a move of existing. That's the same 'success' as thieves. Something, for nothing in return.
) in the silver market, it actually never leaves it, so the price would just go back to a mean one between high and low. As the 2 years price downtrend shows: this isn't the case.
