Electricity prices...What can WE do about it?
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Reducing power to nothing.
1. Insulate your home.
2. Replace all lights with LEDs.
3. Turn off all standby devices when not in use.
4. Learn to live with one fridge
5. Get solar panels. They are cheap now.
If you do the above items first then 2 to 2.5kW should be enough for the average family house.
Been bill free since 2009.
PE
1. Insulate your home.
2. Replace all lights with LEDs.
3. Turn off all standby devices when not in use.
4. Learn to live with one fridge
5. Get solar panels. They are cheap now.
If you do the above items first then 2 to 2.5kW should be enough for the average family house.
Been bill free since 2009.
PE
Utter bullshit. Privatisation has been the only downward force in Australian electricity prices. Every state govt bled the assets dry while price fixing and randomly banning efficient tech and forcing expensive unnecessary tech. The decline took years to happen and tge psuedo-privatisation (which is nothing like a truly private market) has been used as a scapegoat by the bloated inefficient price-gouging unions who loved bleeding large sunk capital intensive assets under the Govts watch.Byron said:
Yes. Just takes up space and requires mainteance etc.metalzzz said:
Grow your own
bordsilver said:
1/2 bottle of jacks
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bordsilver said:
Privatisation, pseudo privatisation in your words, whatever, has totally failed. Profits over the public good. Privatisation does not work in oz, the market is too small.
Byron said:
And a big thanx to maggie f
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You can now get LED replacements in just about every available format of existing replaceable globe or tube. From what I can tell those who ended up with 35-50w halogens through out their homes from the down light revolution that's happened in Aussie home design over the last 10 years are being gimped the hardest. Halogens suck up 10X the power of an equivalent LED and last only about as long as an old incandescent light bulb. Not to mention they are hot, which often means you have to use yet more power by turning on fans or air conditioning, just so you can sit comfortably under them. Also this heat can poses a fire risk, 50W halogens and their transformers are notorious for being hot enough to reach the ignition point of some building materials, such as insulation.
That's the opposite what I'm saying.Byron said:
Byron you are sadly miss led.
Government is the source of the problem. They have remained in control of the market through regulations and price fixing. The only thing that really changed with privatization is that people like you blame the private power companies. Really they are just two parts in a complicated machine. Look at how the US government is prepared to use their military to persue oil all over the world for the benefit of private companies. Is anyone surprised your own government is prepared to sell the market to their mates then regulate the proffita through the roof?
As mentioned earlier manipulating energy supply is a great way to control civilization. Right now we should all be working as hard as we can to deck our houses out with as much electronic stuff as possible...... they jack up the prices and taxes and we have to work even harder to pay the power bill. Its sure gotta be better than having too many people reading, thinking, talking and deciding to be a lot happier with a lot less crap and a lot more time.
Government is the source of the problem. They have remained in control of the market through regulations and price fixing. The only thing that really changed with privatization is that people like you blame the private power companies. Really they are just two parts in a complicated machine. Look at how the US government is prepared to use their military to persue oil all over the world for the benefit of private companies. Is anyone surprised your own government is prepared to sell the market to their mates then regulate the proffita through the roof?
As mentioned earlier manipulating energy supply is a great way to control civilization. Right now we should all be working as hard as we can to deck our houses out with as much electronic stuff as possible...... they jack up the prices and taxes and we have to work even harder to pay the power bill. Its sure gotta be better than having too many people reading, thinking, talking and deciding to be a lot happier with a lot less crap and a lot more time.
boston said:
I don't think its illegal is it....I was in true Value Solar yesterday getting a quote and asking about battery packs and they never said its illegal...I think the price of their battery packs was $4500..
Yes LED lights are the next best solution but some bulbs can cost up to $24 per bulb so you still gotta spend to save later.
I done some research and quoting with True Value Solar systems and they reckon if you go for a 5-6kw system which is regarded as a big system, it will pay itself off in 3.25 years... The cost was something like 10k plus you get $2200 in gov rebate.
TheEnd said:
The old way of thinking about light bulbs would be to consider them as a consumable item. You'd factor them in to your household's grocery budget and buy new ones at the supermarket when they blow out.
With LEDs lasting 50,000 hours and up (11 years at 12 hours a day), it would be more appropriate to consider them a capital item since you could conceivable build a new house, live in in for a decade and then move out without ever having to change a light bulb.
Some people buy new kitchens more frequently than that.