DNWO - Digital New World Order?

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It seems that central banks are making a lot of noise about digital currencies lately. Welcome to the pending digital New World Order.

The World Economic Forum (WEF) — together with some of the world's major central banks — has created a central bank digital currency (CBDC) policymaker toolkit.

According to an announcement on Jan. 22, the toolkit is the WEF's attempt to help policy-makers understand whether deploying a CBDC would be advantageous and guide them through its design.

The WEF collaborated with regulators, central bank researchers, international organizations and experts from over 40 institutions to develop the framework. ...

The WEF’s framework divides CBDCs into three categories: retail, wholesale and hybrid. The first category allows non-financial users to hold digital currency accounts, while the second is an electronic system granting access to the central bank reserve that could be used by commercial banks and other financial institutions for interbank and security transactions.

Hybrid CBDCs allow financial institutions that do not usually have access to a central bank deposit facility to hold reserves at it. This would enable stronger safeguards and monitoring of those organizations and improve interoperability between different payment systems, according to the WEF.

The paper explains that in the case of a DLT-based CBDC, the central bank would preserve full control over the issuance of the digital currency:

[The central bank] could delegate transaction approval to a more decentralized network, most likely consisting of regulated financial institutions. Transaction approval could follow a pre‐specified consensus process determined by the central bank, which could include privileges for the central bank such as transaction ‘veto’ powers or visibility. It is also possible to develop a DLT system in which the central bank remains the only validating node yet it benefits from other advantages related to DLT.
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https://cointelegraph.com/news/worl...s-framework-for-central-bank-digital-currency

This is the framework paper if anyone cares for the details: http://www3.weforum.org/docs/WEF_CBDC_Policymaker_Toolkit.pdf

DAVOS, Switzerland — A growing number of voices are calling for the U.S. to issue a "digital dollar" as China continues to work on a digital version of its own currency.

Users of the U.S. dollar are "underserved by an analogue currency in a digital world," Christopher Giancarlo, former chairman of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC), said during a side event at the World Economic Forum in Davos.
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More: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mar...ith-a-digital-yuan/ar-BBZgb6L?ocid=spartandhp

Leaders of six major central banks undertaking joint research on digital currencies are considering holding their first meeting in mid-April in Washington, the Nikkei newspaper reported on Thursday.

A Bank of Japan executive said no timetable has been fixed for any meeting of the group, but said central banks must respond flexibly to rapid digitalisation to stay relevant as issuers of money.

"In Japan, we don't have any plans now to issue central bank digital currencies (CBDC)," BOJ board member Takako Masai told a news conference in Nara, western Japan, on Thursday.

"But we need to make an effort so we're ready to respond, in case public demand for central bank digital currencies rise dramatically," she said.

The central banks of Britain, the euro zone, Japan, Canada, Sweden and Switzerland announced a plan last month to share their findings to look at the case for issuing digital currencies, amid growing debate over the future of money.

The leaders of the six central banks and the Bank of International Settlements will meet in April to discuss ways to streamline cross-border settlement and security issues that need to be addressed if central banks issue digital currencies in the future, the paper said.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/06/reu...igital-currency-meeting-in-april--nikkei.html

Japan needs closer cooperation with the U.S. to curb the potential influence of China’s planned digital currency, according to a senior lawmaker in Prime Minister Shinzo Abe’s ruling party.

Speaking ahead of the Friday release of proposals aimed at paving the way for digital currency use in Japan, Norihiro Nakayama, vice minister for foreign affairs, said he hoped the Federal Reserve would partner with six other central banks including the Bank of Japan in studying digital currencies.

“We sense the digital yuan is a challenge to the existing global reserve currency system and currency hegemony,” said Nakayama, a top member of the ruling party group that drafted the proposals. “Without the U.S., we cannot counter China’s efforts to challenge the existing reserve currency and international settlement system.”

The comments indicate the heightened concern among policy makers in Japan over the likely impact of a digitized yuan expected for later this year. ...

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-to-release-digital-currency-proposals-friday
 
I don't like quoting/linking Yahoo because their content is live for a short period of time before being deleted, but this was an original report, so...

On Tuesday, Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell gave his monetary policy report in front of the U.S. House Financial Services Committee, and then withstood hours of questions from members of Congress.

Rep. Bill Foster, a Democrat from Illinois, spent his entire five minutes asking Powell about cryptocurrency.

That line of questioning yielded some perspective from Powell that the Fed chair not previously given, and his responses could stoke optimism or disappointment from many in the cryptocurrency world, depending on how they want to parse his typically very deliberate word choice.

So, what did we learn about Powell and crypto?

Federal Reserve Governor Lael Brainard revealed earlier this month that the Federal Reserve is looking into the possibility of designing and issuing a government-backed cryptocurrency, though she did cite “risks” the Fed sees. She specifically raised “the potential for a CBDC” or central bank digital currency.

Foster referenced Brainard’s remarks and asked Powell for his take. Powell made it clear that in his view, the U.S. dollar is working just fine: “Having a single government currency at the heart of the financial system is something that has served us well. It’s a very, very basic thing, it really hasn’t been in question, and I think before we move away from that, we should really understand what we’re doing. Preserving the centrality of a central, widely accepted currency that is accepted and trusted is an enormously important thing.”

He sounded pretty cautious about a central bank crypto (or “Fedcoin” as many have nicknamed it), but he also acknowledges that central banks around the world are at least looking into it.

“Every major central bank is currently taking a deep look at that,” Powell said. “We feel that’s our obligation, technology has now made that possible. I think it’s very much incumbent on us and other central banks to understand the costs and benefits and tradeoffs associated with a possible digital currency.”

The elephant in the room for the entire Fedcoin conversation is China.

Even as China has cracked down on certain cryptocurrencies and bitcoin miners in its country, Xi Jinping has urged Chinese companies to spur blockchain innovation, and now the PBOC (People’s Bank of China) is very close to issuing a state-run cryptocurrency.

Foster asked Powell if the Fed has “visibility” into what China is doing in this area and how far along it is. “Yes, we certainly have that,” Powell said. “But they’re in a completely different institutional context. For example, the idea of having a ledger where you know everybody’s payments, that’s not something that would be particularly attractive in the United States context. It’s not a problem in China.”

Indeed, a PBOC coin would obviously be centralized and run by the Chinese government, whereas the entire value proposition of bitcoin is that it is decentralized. In the U.S., where consumers are used to freedom and privacy, any financial ledger where the government has access to all the data will be greeted with heavy scrutiny.
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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/fed-...yptocurrency-plans-us-response-211840877.html

Bitcoin's ledger is public domain. Govco can examine the data just like anyone else. It's always been a point of cognitive dissonance IMO with the whole crypto-privacy illusion.
 
Bitcoin's ledger is public domain. Govco can examine the data just like anyone else. It's always been a point of cognitive dissonance IMO with the whole crypto-privacy illusion.

And what personal data can they extract from examining transactions on the blockchain?
 
And what personal data can they extract from examining transactions on the blockchain?

Wallets can be profiled. Here in the USA at least, any conversion of bitcoin to dollars or payment for goods ties a wallet to a person/address. If a bitcoin styled crypto were to be a national currency, you can bet that the technology for tracking wallets would become every bit as robust as the surveillance tech that tracks "smart" phones.
 
One of the topics I'm covering in today's market update for ABC Bullion. Central bankers are keen to become more central to the financial system, I think a digital currency is inevitable.
 
If there are other civilisations out in the universe I doubt that any of them that managed to invent computers and AI survived for long afterwards.

Computers are the ultimate way for a small number of people to completely subdue the rest of the species. That much power in the hands of so few practically ensures extinction. One mistake, one stupid decision by someone with that much power and the species falls.
 
One of the topics I'm covering in today's market update for ABC Bullion. Central bankers are keen to become more central to the financial system, I think a digital currency is inevitable.
So a digital currency could exist together with cash initially?
 
By digital currency, I presume we mean government backed as opposed to a third party concoction like bitcoin. I know fiat is not gold backed, but we have the 12th largest economy in the world so any digital currency would be backed by the assets of the country.
 
Wallets can be profiled. Here in the USA at least, any conversion of bitcoin to dollars or payment for goods ties a wallet to a person/address. If a bitcoin styled crypto were to be a national currency, you can bet that the technology for tracking wallets would become every bit as robust as the surveillance tech that tracks "smart" phones.

They can, as long as they're tied to KYC identities etc, or if intelligence agencies have the software capability to run which they only do in some cases. We all know that.

However, Jerome Powell's comments (that's if he did say them) were disingenuous and extremely misleading.

If China is planning to develop a blockchain based currency system for the purpose of tracking the transactions of its citizens, that doesn't necessarily mean if the US government developed a blockchain based cryptocurrency then its function would be to track the transactions of individuals. It could quite easily develop a cryptocurrency that is decentralised just like the many others if it chose to which makes it difficult to trace transactions and in some cases impossible.
 
What would be happening to gold when cash is wasting away?

Exactly what's already happening as our fiat gets constantly diluted.
Gold price will continue to climb because the buying power of fiat dropping.

Most countries won't go cashless in our lifetimes, it's simply impossible. A form of cash needs to fill the gap between City's and towns with great internet access and remote communities, locations and outposts with poor, unreliable or no internet.
 
I mean waste away in terms of usage, not value (although that continues unabated). A central bank digital currency has big implications for banks, as most mainstream investors holding cash would probably switch - why hold cash at a bank subject to $250k bank guarantee when you can hold directly with the RBA? Most probably won't consider the trap they are getting in if that becomes too popular then the government just says everyone should have balances at RBA and banks just lend.
 
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Exactly what's already happening as our fiat gets constantly diluted.
Gold price will continue to climb because the buying power of fiat dropping.
Most countries won't go cashless in our lifetimes, it's simply impossible. A form of cash needs to fill the gap between City's and towns with great internet access and remote communities, locations and outposts with poor, unreliable or no internet.

PAPER & DIGITAL currency (not MONEY) reminds me of the South Park cartoon characters in the bank.
POOF, And it's GONE!!!!!! Sound like a TRAP @bron.suchecki ? LOL. _JOHNLGALT.

 
So a digital currency could exist together with cash initially?

The first and second links in the OP lay out several design frameworks for a central bank digital currency (CBDC). See the wholesale and hybrid plans for examples of how they could coexist with cash (at least initially).

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However, Jerome Powell's comments (that's if he did say them) were disingenuous and extremely misleading. ...

Yeah, that's what I was saying.

... that doesn't necessarily mean if the US government developed a blockchain based cryptocurrency then its function would be to track the transactions of individuals.

The blockchain ledger by definition/design maintains a record of every transaction. If a digital currency uses a blockchain ledger, then transactions are recorded and can be traced. The issue with Bitcoin, for example, is that wallets that hold the coins are opaque until they "meet the real world" by exchanging the coin for goods or fiat currency. At that point, the wallet is exposed as such exchanges tie wallets to people and/or places.
 
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