Coin of the year... Return on investment

and I agree with yrh's chart for many of the numi/modern high relief medals and coins. Some have stood the test of time (albeit it's a short test - lol), and others have tanked. what their prices will be in 5 - 10 years? Who knows. But some have tanked bad. for example, I'm glad I sold my 2 pieces of the Pena coin as soon as I released them. Whew.

Will the Odins stand the test of time? Who knows. But if I were holding 20 pieces, I wouldn't be holding them long term. lol.
 
DanielM said:
I thought this was coin of the year not 100 years


Aureus stated
They are the only 3 series you are guaranteed a return on longterm if you know what and when to buy.

I had to put his absurd nonsense to rest in a number of ways and at the same time I was curious what he meant by longterm but since he chose not to define it, I did....100 years.



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Aureus said:
mmissinglink said:
Aureus, there's no good evidence at all that your claim is true. Also, long term could mean anything to anyone and to someone who is 18 years old buying coins today, it certainly could be a different definition than to someone who is 65 and buying.

Also, it's a ridiculous logical fallacy ( ad verecundiam ) to assert that because I have not been stacking as long as you claim to be stacking that therefore I don't know better than you. An argument must be logical without the use of appeals to authority or other logical fallacies.

Your flat disc milky kooks for the past nearly decade have been minted in the hundreds of thousands every year, so in 100 years, many could be easily seen as melting pot fodder along with many ASE's and SCML's whereas my much higher quality high relief Odin, Chinese medals, and other high relief low mintage beauties would much better stand the test of time as collectors generally treasure beauty and rarity over massive volumes of inferior quality products.


I own some Perth Mint bullion Lunars, Koalas, and Kooks but they are nothing special (especially with their milk spots) and if I get spot silver for them some day, I won't say that I am terribly surprised.



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mmissinglink said:
As for hype, by far and away, the most unwarranted hype I've seen on a regular basis is for Perth Mint products. Not that none of their products deserve praise, but virtually everything they produce, both the utter crap and the high quality items seems to be hyped far beyond anything else. It could be argued then that the premiums on many of these items are sucker premiums and were it not for the unparalleled hype, the sales would be considerably less on some or many of the products.
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My suggestion to you is to seriously consider learning about semi numismatics, start with kooks and lunars then delve into the insanity that is Pandas. Based on the above it isn't your strong suite.
I say that without any malice, if you're going to be in this game for the foreseeable future you need to know their value and importance as an investment. You are not going to make money in this game without them, and that really goes to anyone who buys into mini series, random proofs and high reliefs.
You have over 30 years of history that proves this with pandas and 16-25 years of history that cements the Perth mints offerings as some of the best investor grade bullion money can buy. You can't turn a blind eye to that.


Ultimately if you want to keep calling me stupid, ridiculous and uneducated go for it, you won't learn anything doing that though.


You obviously make very poor, logical-fallacy laden arguments here in this thread. For the record, I labelled your arguments here absurd
mmissinglink said:
Aureus, there's no good evidence at all for the absurd claim you make.
because they absolutely are nutty. I label you arrogant because that's your attitude (just read your own condescending words to see this truth). If you don't like being called what you come across as or having your arguments called for what they are, change yourself.




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The truth is, no one knows how Libertads, Kooks, or certain high relief coins/medals for example will perform over the long term.

It's all speculation and we actually have no long term history to gauge modern bullion coins by. High relief medals have been around for a long time (but I have found no references as to initial costs) as have circulating coins. But keep in mind that past performance does not guarantee future results.




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Well, this thread has morphed into something very different from the OP.. :lol:


My point in posting that Peace dollar, was to show that high-relief isn't some recent "gimmick," nor does it always suffer in price.

Almost 95 years old, and still appears to hold the test of time. I'd wager that in another 95 years, it will still be a sought-after piece..
 
Minus some of the posts, this type of post is where I learn a lot from and why I keep coming back. I'm very appreciative you guys are so open with your strategies, winners, losers, etc. Some people are tight lipped always trying to get ahead on one another. Since this forum is geographically diverse there is very little cannabalism for the same consumer, the knowledge you guys share here is very educational.
 
Silverpv said:
Minus some of the posts, this type of post is where I learn a lot from and why I keep coming back. I'm very appreciative you guys are so open with your strategies, winners, losers, etc. Some people are tight lipped always trying to get ahead on one another. Since this forum is geographically diverse there is very little cannabalism for the same consumer, the knowledge you guys share here is very educational.
Amen!!!
 
I am a little surprised no-one has pointed out that the "high relief" peace dollar was DISCONTINUED after a year and change due to the high relief.
So as an example of lasting , it did not at the time of issue and is the only reason the 1922 is popular today.
I like the high relief as it is a pretty bland coin without it.
I notice on ngc the population of ms65 + is very limited on the 1921 i should send them mine to increase this i guess and turn my $25 coin into a $9000 coin, lol
 
sterling-nz said:
I am a little surprised no-one has pointed out that the "high relief" peace dollar was DISCONTINUED after a year and change due to the high relief.
So as an example of lasting , it did not at the time of issue and is the only reason the 1922 is popular today.
I like the high relief as it is a pretty bland coin without it.
I notice on ngc the population of ms65 + is very limited on the 1921 i should send them mine to increase this i guess and turn my $25 coin into a $9000 coin, lol

Post us photo after you get high grade
 
sterling-nz said:
I notice on ngc the population of ms65 + is very limited on the 1921 i should send them mine to increase this i guess and turn my $25 coin into a $9000 coin, lol

You need to aim a bit higher, mate! :D


Record this past August, for a PCGS MS67, is $70,500 USD..
 
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