chinese stock market falls 30% in 3 weeks

Peter

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Executives at 11 Shenzhen-listed companies announced plans on Friday to increase equity holdings in their own firms, the latest efforts among corporates to stem a nearly 30 PERCENT DECLINE in Chinese stock prices over the past three weeks.

The announcements followed a proposal earlier in the day by 28 firms on Shenzhen's ChiNext board for quick-growing enterprises, urging all publicly traded firms to act "to maintain capital market stability and prosperity".

Stock prices on China's main exchanges in Shenzhen and Shanghai have been volatile since the government last month announced a crackdown on leveraged share trading. The extent of the price decline has raised the prospect of a stock market crash, threatening financial stability and economic recovery.

To help avert a crash, executives have started buying shares in their companies in an apparent show of confidence. On Thursday, 12 listed firms said major shareholders or top managers recently increased holdings.
We have collated views from various experts on the sharp selling in China markets and its impact:

Nicholas Teo, Market Analyst, CMC Markets: "from best to worst'

We are seeing another sort of turmoil being played out and it has been largely recognised that the Chinese market has been fuelled by two things. One, easy and cheap money from margin lending and, two, they are getting a new brand of investors or traders coming into the ball game.

They are mainly novice investors or traders, like pensioners, school teachers, retirees etc. These investors are very dangerous. They have ultimately led to this very acute selldown that we have seen in the last two-three weeks. Literally overnight, the Chinese markets have gone from the best to the worst.

Geoffrey Dennis, UBS Investment Bank: "Volatility in China shows volatility of investors"

In the long term, the situation in China is much more significant for the emerging markets. In the short term, there is a lot of worry around Greece but in the longer term, the impact of the Chinese slowdown and a very weak market will be of a greater concern for the emerging markets overall.

So, the volatility in China is indicative of the volatility of investor sentiment inside China itself. The main index which foreign investors look out, which is the Hong Kong-listed China enterprises index, has obviously come down, but it has not come down as much as the other indices.
 
Shanghai Composite index plunged a further 5.8%, taking the drop in share values to 28% since their June peak.

Panic selling

Panic selling wiped more than 2tn off the value of Chinese-listed companies and traders signalled the rout would extend into next week.

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/jul/03/chinas-stock-market-slump-continues

Margin calls fuel China's dramatic stock market collapse

Chinese stocks had doubled between last November and mid-June, to the delight of a fast-growing army of retail investors.

http://www.theguardian.com/business...-stock-market-collapse-investors-margin-calls

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Peter said:
So when will this happen in Australia?
Do not be so ridiculous.
This could never happen in a country like Australia or New Zealand or Greece or the USA or UK because we are advanced economies.
 
Don't Trade With Leverage Especially if you are a noob. :)

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Peter said:
So when will this happen in Australia?

Compared to China, our market is probably more robust. It is certainly more mature, more transparent and has better regulatory oversight (relatively, that is).

Massively inflated valuations, massive levels of leverage, and a degree of "mum & pop" mania in China are the likely cause of the big rise and the big drop, and the Chinese regulators could be pressured to find scapegoats in foreign investors to ease the anger of the local populace. That could magnify any falls.

BTW: Did anyone spot this quote?
"The government must rescue the market, not with empty words, but with real silver and gold," said Fu Xuejun, strategist at Huarong Securities Co, before the CSRC and PBOC announcements, adding that a market crash would hurt banks, consumption, companies and even trigger social instability. "It's a disaster. If it's not, what is it?"
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/07/03/us-china-markets-idUSKCN0PD03020150703


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willrocks said:
Elsewhere, the risk of highly-leveraged stock purchases was highlighted by reports in local media of a 32-old investor who ended his life last week by jumping off a building after losing 1.7 million yuan betting on a single stock with borrowed money.
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/hongkongMktRpt/idUSL3N0Z11V820150615?irpc=932
Suicide over what? $250,000.
If that is all it takes then he was on the edge anyhow
EDIT: well a tad more , i had not look at the Yua chart for a while, seems to have gained a fair amount of strength since my last look.
So it is more like $420,000.
 
SilverPete said:
Compared to China, our market is probably more robust. It is certainly more mature, more transparent and has better regulatory oversight (relatively, that is).

:lol:

That didn't stop overvaluation and crashes in the past, here or in the USA (which you could argue is the most robust market in the world)

Markets are markets and human nature is human nature

Chinese now are behaving eerily like the Japanese in the late 80s.
Huge run up in the stock market, real estate massively overpriced, buying up real estate assets overseas
 
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