Carbon Tax just the start... Proposed recycling levy next.
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Peter said:
To be fair to me Peter, please quote my entire sentence, not half of it. Context is everything.
"They also tried to drive for a mandate to have one of the most potent neurotoxins known to man added to all bottled water in Australia. Fluorine."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluoride_toxicity
As opposed to the fascist state the greens want us to live in?Big A.D. said:wrcmad said:Big A.D. said:
SO F%#KING WHAT!!!
I am not into socialism, and I don't care enough to even pay 1/20%!!!!!!
Yeah, well I'm not into having Coca-Cola dictate this country's environmental policy and if it costs me $0.001 for every container that I use to push back against the fascist state those corporations want us to live in then I'll pay it happily and they can go f*** themselves.
Give it a rest dude.....
Drink tap water ? I suggest anyone that drinks it that you get a large spoonful & leave it on the windowsill & let it evaporate & see the residue left on the spoon ... Then think of how much is in a glass full then times that by the glasses per day you drink then times that by.... Ewwww ...erk.....erk....erk im dry reaching just thinking about it . :lol:
Yes but it won't cost 0.001 per container will it it will cost 10c to 20c per container.Big difference.And if you want to stick it to Coca-Cola how about don't buy their products? I buy maybe one or two soft drink cans per month and then usually from independents like Bundaberg.Surely the big deal breaker on this one is milk as it is essential for most households.$300 added to a yearly shopping bill is not a neglible amount especially after the carbon tax has just hiked grocery bills as it is.Big A.D. said:
Finally i am quite sure that food grade plastic milk bottles cannot be made with recycled plastic it must be fresh virgin stuff every time.The recycled plastic can be used to make non food plastics though.
There is great irony in arguing against fluoridation with people on fluoride.
"If you think you are free, there is no escape possible", Ram Dass
We live in a Brave New World and drink the soma every day. The system is self policing with the Alpha elites down to the Gammas all programmed for enforcing compliance.
"If you think you are free, there is no escape possible", Ram Dass
We live in a Brave New World and drink the soma every day. The system is self policing with the Alpha elites down to the Gammas all programmed for enforcing compliance.
It will cost you 10c if you don't recycle it and claim your deposit back.GoldenEgg said:
If you do claim your deposit back you...well, you get your deposit back.
Think of it this way: your drink would come packaged in a bottle-shaped 10c coin. You're free to chuck it away if you want to or you can exchange it for a small, round, metal 10c coin.
No, food grade plastic containers can be made from recycled plastic.
Finding the most appropriate plastic for any given type of food product is a whole area of materials science but recycling food grade plastic back into food grade plastic happens all the time.
The fact that we can do this is one of the things that make plastic such a fantastic material and the fact that we don't do it as often as we could is, frankly, stupid.
When we were youngsters we used to scavenge for bottles to get the deposits back. My grandfather collected the 2 empty beer bottles a day (3 on the weekends) and added them to the pile against the garage until there was enough to get the bottle-o in to pay for a load. More beer money and the cycle continued.
Then one day the manufacturers discovered new cheaper ways to make containers and decided that they could make more profits if they didn't bother collecting the bottles and containers to clean and refill.
Instead they kept the price of the goods the same, then abolished the deposit on the bottle and left us - the population - to dispose of the refuse that the industry had packaged 'our' goods in, in preference to the easily recycled bottle system previously in place. That way we consumers have to pay a non-refundable deposit by way of the increased council and government taxes for waste and landfill, and their profits remain intact. They don't pay for the clean up. We do, all of us, even those of us who don't drink their products.
Privatise the profits, socialise the losses.
And speaking of milk. I still remember my first taste of homogenised carton milk and how unpalatable it was compared to fresh milk in a glass bottle. I found out later that homogenisation enabled smaller molecules to pass through the gut wall undigested, and for the milk to interact with the plastic coating of the carton. Now we have the same product in even more suspect containers. Health costs immense.
Privatise the profits, socialise the losses.
Then one day the manufacturers discovered new cheaper ways to make containers and decided that they could make more profits if they didn't bother collecting the bottles and containers to clean and refill.
Instead they kept the price of the goods the same, then abolished the deposit on the bottle and left us - the population - to dispose of the refuse that the industry had packaged 'our' goods in, in preference to the easily recycled bottle system previously in place. That way we consumers have to pay a non-refundable deposit by way of the increased council and government taxes for waste and landfill, and their profits remain intact. They don't pay for the clean up. We do, all of us, even those of us who don't drink their products.
Privatise the profits, socialise the losses.
And speaking of milk. I still remember my first taste of homogenised carton milk and how unpalatable it was compared to fresh milk in a glass bottle. I found out later that homogenisation enabled smaller molecules to pass through the gut wall undigested, and for the milk to interact with the plastic coating of the carton. Now we have the same product in even more suspect containers. Health costs immense.
Privatise the profits, socialise the losses.
renovator said:
Funny you should mention that - I placed a glass bowl of water over a ducted floor heating vent to get some moisture back into the bedroom air overnight. The next morning the bottom of the bowl was WHITE.
I remember fresh milk, how good was that......... I wish I could get some milk straight from the cow. I think I have heard it is illegal to sell fresh milk though? Things have gone so off track, kids aren't allowed to climb trees these days in case they fall and hurt themselves and the parents decide to sue. We are living in some crazy times. My son just got a trampoline, I didn't want to put the safety net around the outside ( I never had safety nets on mine as a kid) well I was the worst parent in the world.... "What happens if they fall off?" my response is they can climb back on. Everything is so politically correct, kids can't even walk to school by themselves any more or ride their push bikes.
As for recycling glass bottles these days there would be some reason not to - not hygienic enough or some law saying you can't for some crazy reason.
As for recycling glass bottles these days there would be some reason not to - not hygienic enough or some law saying you can't for some crazy reason.
fiatphoney
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Newtosilver said:
I had some milk fresh from dairy while on holiday a few weeks ago. Unbelievably good.
Got chickens that started laying this week.
Cheap eggs make saliva pool in my mouth while sleeping.
Check out the berkey water filter.
fiatphoney
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JulieW said:
Buy from US. It is gravity fed - which is an adv over a RO unit, but RO strips down to 2ppm or thereabouts. We bought the biggest, you can run it on just one black filter candle if need be (if you have an extra plug - ie seven holes need to be plugged with one using a filter), or the whole eight filters for a really really large group of people. We got the white after filters as well.
Will take four years to get our money back, but I am very happy with it. We have had an RO unit in the past.
I'd order some extra spigot rubber washes.
If you overfill it it will leak. You can buy a level indicating spigot for this.
Or to save money there are instructions to build your own, prob on youtube. You still need to buy the filter candles.
renovator said:
I bought a cheap steam distiller a little while back, and the residue left behind in that thing after each cycle (3.6L) is a real eye opener...
First time I used it, I showed SWMBO the residue, and said "Would you spread that on a slice of toast and eat it?".. she declined
And TPTB reckon that rain water is dangerous??? .......... hhhmmmm.................
ShinyStuff
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Peter said:wrcmad said:Big A.D. said:
SO F%#KING WHAT!!!
I am not into socialism, and I don't care enough to even pay 1/20%!!!!!!
Stop telling me it only costs a little bit every time I am taxed - this reasoning is ideological and I don't give a $$#% about anyone elses ideals!!!!!.
All these little bits add up to more than I deserve to be thieved IMHO.
If it's only a little bit, then why don't they ask someone who cares less?
Sounds like the only thing you care about is your pocket.
Are you SERIOUS??
I give up hours and hours away from my family each week, working for a boss who I would rather not work for, earning less than I deserve to have half of it TAKEN AWAY before I even see it.... and you say I care about my pocket?
BLOODY OATH MATE.
Who doesn't? What a stupid thing to say. :|
.... oh by the way, bought reverse osmosis water filter two years ago... NEVER looked back. Kids hate drinking water from other places (Nan's and Pop's etc etc) as they don't filter their water.... Once you taste REAL water, you will realise how bad it is out of the tap.