car mows down pedestrians in Melbourne.

millededge said:
Roswell Crash Survivor said:
spannermonkey said:
The Russian attitude of
Shoot first
Ask questions later

Equally valid for American police.

Black man lying on the ground with his hands up up in the air? Shoot him anyway!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqBAOX6Qegk[/youtube]

As for this, if you do not know the power of leftism and media, type in to google "black man lying on the ground with his hands up in the air" (without quotes) and miami.

What you get is, like a search of leftist topics such as refugees and asylum seekers, a who's who of globalist media sirens, CNN, SMH, ABC, Vox, Vice, news.com.au (yes, Murdoch press is globalist, if you did not notice this in the last election, it is just a different stripe), NBC, CBS

So of course, playing orthodox leftist, they say an investigation is taking place to see if race played a part. This is rarely the case when the victim is white, actually, I'm pressed to think of a more than a single example, despite the huge number of whites shot by police. Therefore, the narrative is racist rather than equalist, but leftists are not known for logic unless the logic is defined as the outcome justifies the means.

What the media seems to play down is the police statement that they were actually trying to shoot the nuffy. I would have thought that is even worse - police try to shoot an autistic kid! The kid was holding an object, which the police mistook for a gun and shot the black man in the leg on the ground. That is not how Roswells's vid runs though is it? Leftists disgust me. They take advantage of this sort of incident to advance their anti-police and racially divisionist narrative to foment violence. The riots in the US instigated by these radical left activists, their globalist paymasters and their MSM mouthpieces are what happens with leftist "progressive" agitation.

The outcome justifies the means.

There are lots of recent examples of heavily misrepresented police action in the US with the result of numerous dead officers, soaring crime rates, anti-white violence as intended. Michael Brown is the standout for me, but also Trayvon Martin ("if I had a son") and Freddie Gray. Freddie is particularly interesting, with evidence of misuse of power to prosecute at a very high level in Baltimore, ongoing.


there are much worse cop shootings by the USA police here is an example

a HANDCUFFED prisoner being TRANSFERRED from one prison to another gets shot point blank whilst on the ground (still in handcuffs ) by the police -- the officer gets off no charges.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3obAbbx1HI[/youtube]
 
@CJ
In a public place without a headset so will look at that later.

I did type in "handcuffed man executed...." exactly as above

What is interesting is the list of hits
Vice is there but no majors.
First thought is:there is no racial difference to exploit by the MSM
As it turns out:
Daniel Rodrigo Saenz (victim) is white, my guess is he may identify as hispanic white per US Census criteria
The officer is named Jose Flores, clearly a hispanic name
So, it seems there is no racial narrative for the press to run with and so this may explain the lack of coverage in the initial hits in the search engine.
 
As for Gargasoulas, though the link to his FB is apparently disabled, per the Greek article linked to earlier, excerpts from his page "S1K**T" can be better accessed by typing that neologism into the search bar.

For those that may wonder why he chose that term, think of the definition as : a caring understanding nice type that is feeling unwell. Please note I have asterisked out the letters denoting "Understanding" and "Nice".
 
Big A.D. said:
mmm....shiney! said:
Economic utility must play its part in why a user chooses meth as opposed to any other drug. Obviously meth has a different kind of high to it than alcohol, but like any commodity price must play a part in making that economic choice for at least some.

Perhaps it does the first couple of times, but meth dumps 500-1000x more dopamine into the brain than it normally has swishing around in there and you can't put a thousand times more of anything through a system not designed to cope with that volume of stuff without permanently affecting the way it functions.

Forty bucks is cheap enough for people to try it and pretty soon the cost simply doesn't matter any more.

You could offer an ice addict as much free alcohol as they want forever and instead they'll pay the $40 to buy the next hit of ice that'll last them a day.

If alcohol were cheaper then we would have uncoordinated drunks rather than euphoric meth heads to deal with.

The uncoordinated drunk who stumbles in front of a bus and dies costs society somewhere between $2.8m-$3 million.

That's not to say the meth head doesn't cause a lot of problems for other people as well, but there's a non-zero cost to everyone in having alcoholics rolling about all over the place.

How does a uncoordinated drunk dying cost "society" $2.8-$3 million ?
Please explain
 
millededge said:
@CJ
In a public place without a headset so will look at that later.

I did type in "handcuffed man executed...." exactly as above

What is interesting is the list of hits
Vice is there but no majors.
First thought is:there is no racial difference to exploit by the MSM
As it turns out:
Daniel Rodrigo Saenz (victim) is white, my guess is he may identify as hispanic white per US Census criteria
The officer is named Jose Flores, clearly a hispanic name
So, it seems there is no racial narrative for the press to run with and so this may explain the lack of coverage in the initial hits in the search engine.

Here's the other side of the story:

"Saenz, who was a competitive bodybuilder, was arrested that day for assaulting a police officer. A later autopsy would reveal he tested positive for dimethylamylamine, or DMAA, the substance found in the synthetic stimulant known as bath salts.
While Flores booked Saenz into jail, the suspect "struck his own head into the doorway causing himself injury," and jail staff said he needed to be transported to the hospital.
And that's when the fatal confrontation with Saenz began. Flores takes a step back from Saenz and appears to struggle with removing his Taser before successfully unholstering his sidearm and firing a single round.
According to Jim Jopling, the lawyer who represented Flores, even though Saenz was handcuffed with his hands behind his back, he still posed a threat to Flores' safety.
"The video does not show an important event that happened earlier in the day," Jopling said. "When Mr. Saenz was in his holding cell at the Pebble Hills Regional Command Center, he was observed moving his cuffed hands from behind his body to the front of his body. This is called 'fronting' his cuffs. Mr. Saenz, who was in bare feet, put his shoes on and, when finished, moved his handcuffs back behind his body. Mr. Saenz did this with great agility and speed."
"In the video, Officer Flores first reaches for his Taser. However, he decides not to deploy his Taser because he knew that Mr. Saenz also earlier that same day had undergone five cycles of the Taser device, without effect. He had been Tased earlier in the day after he assaulted a police officer and other people at the hospital where he was being evaluated."
Jopling said that Flores drew his weapon because "Saenz could quickly front his cuffs and turn them into a deadly weapon, given his considerable strength, agility, and demonstrated resistance to the Taser At the same moment Officer Flores draws his weapon, Mr. Saenz pushes off on that curb and, with remarkable strength, sends the civilian escort flying backwards. The civilian escort's arm then hits the trigger hand of Officer Flores, causing his weapon to discharge."

DMAA was quite widely available here in bodybuilding supplements for some time. It is now banned. I don't think it is bath salts though, which is mephedrone and one other similar drug to it.

From the above, you can see that there is more to it, as there typically is. Saenz was tazed five times earlier, to no effect. He also managed to get his cuffs in front of him and then back. He was a professional athlete, I believe an El Paso champion weightlifter or something like it.

He also did not cooperate with the officer. The last sentence is interesting, the civilian's arm hitting the oficer's trigger hand. I would have to watch the video to see it.

Here's a bit of LOL from "African globe.net"
AFRICANGLOBE - Earlier this year a grand jury declined to charge an El Paso police officer in the shooting death of a prisoner. A video of the incidenct was published on Monday, after the Texas Attorney General instructed the city to fulfill a request processed by the El Paso Times. The events of the video are deeply unsettling, showing a police officer essentially executing a handcuffed Black man.
https://www.africanglobe.net/tag/daniel-rodrigo-saenz/

That to me sums it up. The African Globe saw the video and saw a black man (with a capital B) being "executed". They saw what they wanted, not what was. The evidence is the dead man was white. Not only this, but according to Flores' lawyer, it was the ***dead white man*** that accidentally struck the civilian (actually an employed guard), "sending him (the guard) flying" and the guard's arm struck the police officer's trigger hand, causing discharge of the weapon.

The incident was captured clearly on video. There was no case against Flores and this is why it was thrown out. Had the victim been black though, my guess it would have been politicised and run even though it would eventually be rejected, because it fits the MSM agenda.
 
radiobirdman said:
Big A.D. said:
mmm....shiney! said:
Economic utility must play its part in why a user chooses meth as opposed to any other drug. Obviously meth has a different kind of high to it than alcohol, but like any commodity price must play a part in making that economic choice for at least some.

Perhaps it does the first couple of times, but meth dumps 500-1000x more dopamine into the brain than it normally has swishing around in there and you can't put a thousand times more of anything through a system not designed to cope with that volume of stuff without permanently affecting the way it functions.

Forty bucks is cheap enough for people to try it and pretty soon the cost simply doesn't matter any more.

You could offer an ice addict as much free alcohol as they want forever and instead they'll pay the $40 to buy the next hit of ice that'll last them a day.

If alcohol were cheaper then we would have uncoordinated drunks rather than euphoric meth heads to deal with.

The uncoordinated drunk who stumbles in front of a bus and dies costs society somewhere between $2.8m-$3 million.

That's not to say the meth head doesn't cause a lot of problems for other people as well, but there's a non-zero cost to everyone in having alcoholics rolling about all over the place.

How does a uncoordinated drunk dying cost "society" $2.8-$3 million ?
Please explain

https://bitre.gov.au/publications/2010/files/report_118.pdf
 
Big A.D. said:
radiobirdman said:
Big A.D. said:
Perhaps it does the first couple of times, but meth dumps 500-1000x more dopamine into the brain than it normally has swishing around in there and you can't put a thousand times more of anything through a system not designed to cope with that volume of stuff without permanently affecting the way it functions.

Forty bucks is cheap enough for people to try it and pretty soon the cost simply doesn't matter any more.

You could offer an ice addict as much free alcohol as they want forever and instead they'll pay the $40 to buy the next hit of ice that'll last them a day.



The uncoordinated drunk who stumbles in front of a bus and dies costs society somewhere between $2.8m-$3 million.

That's not to say the meth head doesn't cause a lot of problems for other people as well, but there's a non-zero cost to everyone in having alcoholics rolling about all over the place.

How does a uncoordinated drunk dying cost "society" $2.8-$3 million ?
Please explain

https://bitre.gov.au/publications/2010/files/report_118.pdf

And the real cost, of a drunk getting run over, SFA
 
Big A.D. said:
radiobirdman said:
Big A.D. said:

And the real cost, of a drunk getting run over, SFA

Well, no it isn't, as you can see in the data.

Ice addicts getting run over and running over other people isn't cheap either, both in economic and social costs.

Yeah I seen the data, road deaths 2006
The cost of keeping a culpable driver in jail
And the drivers lost income
Don't apply
Wages to coppers and ambo's don't apply , they are getting paid anyway
A lot of so-called costs don't apply
You are a smart cookie Big A.D.
What are the real $ costs
 
millededge said:
Roswell Crash Survivor said:
spannermonkey said:
The Russian attitude of
Shoot first
Ask questions later

Equally valid for American police.

Black man lying on the ground with his hands up up in the air? Shoot him anyway!

As for this, if you do not know the power of leftism and media

The outcome justifies the means.

Meanwhile, have a look at these mugshots.

James Holmes
Holmes-Booking-Photo.jpg

Found guilty of the Aurora, Colorado cinema shooting.
Murdered 12 people, injured 70 more.

Dylan Roof
801057_1280x720.jpg

Found guilty of the church mass shooting in Charleston, South Carolina.
Murdered 9 people, injured one more.

Robert Lewis Dear, Jr.
robert-lewis-dear.jpg

Found guilty of the Planned Parenthood shooting in Colorado Springs, Colorado
Murdered 3 people, injured 9 more

All three (white) perpetrators were arrested by the police using non-lethal force.

Meanwhile, African-Americans are being shot dead in encounters with police over trivial issues.

Alton Sterling
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCMNRP10cPI[/youtube]
Shot dead while trying to sell CDs in public

Philando Castille
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5Pt1nkw3Mk[/youtube]
Shot dead after being pulled over - "for a busted taillight"
 
Roswell Crash Survivor said:
millededge said:
Roswell Crash Survivor said:
Equally valid for American police.

Black man lying on the ground with his hands up up in the air? Shoot him anyway!

As for this, if you do not know the power of leftism and media

The outcome justifies the means.

Meanwhile, have a look at these mugshots.

James Holmes
http://cbsnews1.cbsistatic.com/hub/...2fd03f238c78808d4cac/Holmes-Booking-Photo.jpg
Found guilty of the Aurora, Colorado cinema shooting.
Murdered 12 people, injured 70 more.

Dylan Roof
http://cdn.abclocal.go.com/content/creativecontent/images/cms/801057_1280x720.jpg
Found guilty of the church mass shooting in Charleston, South Carolina.
Murdered 9 people, injured one more.

Robert Lewis Dear, Jr.
http://16004-presscdn-0-50.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/robert-lewis-dear.jpg
Found guilty of the Planned Parenthood shooting in Colorado Springs, Colorado
Murdered 3 people, injured 9 more

All three (white) perpetrators were arrested by the police using non-lethal force.

Meanwhile, African-Americans are being shot dead in encounters with police over trivial issues.

Alton Sterling
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCMNRP10cPI[/youtube]
Shot dead while trying to sell CDs in public

Philando Castille
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5Pt1nkw3Mk[/youtube]
Shot dead after being pulled over - "for a busted taillight"

Good one roswell, I hate white stnuc to
Paid your BET yet?
 
millededge said:
millededge said:
@CJ
In a public place without a headset so will look at that later.

I did type in "handcuffed man executed...." exactly as above

What is interesting is the list of hits
Vice is there but no majors.
First thought is:there is no racial difference to exploit by the MSM
As it turns out:
Daniel Rodrigo Saenz (victim) is white, my guess is he may identify as hispanic white per US Census criteria
The officer is named Jose Flores, clearly a hispanic name
So, it seems there is no racial narrative for the press to run with and so this may explain the lack of coverage in the initial hits in the search engine.

Here's the other side of the story:

"Saenz, who was a competitive bodybuilder, was arrested that day for assaulting a police officer. A later autopsy would reveal he tested positive for dimethylamylamine, or DMAA, the substance found in the synthetic stimulant known as bath salts.
While Flores booked Saenz into jail, the suspect "struck his own head into the doorway causing himself injury," and jail staff said he needed to be transported to the hospital.
And that's when the fatal confrontation with Saenz began. Flores takes a step back from Saenz and appears to struggle with removing his Taser before successfully unholstering his sidearm and firing a single round.
According to Jim Jopling, the lawyer who represented Flores, even though Saenz was handcuffed with his hands behind his back, he still posed a threat to Flores' safety.
"The video does not show an important event that happened earlier in the day," Jopling said. "When Mr. Saenz was in his holding cell at the Pebble Hills Regional Command Center, he was observed moving his cuffed hands from behind his body to the front of his body. This is called 'fronting' his cuffs. Mr. Saenz, who was in bare feet, put his shoes on and, when finished, moved his handcuffs back behind his body. Mr. Saenz did this with great agility and speed."
"In the video, Officer Flores first reaches for his Taser. However, he decides not to deploy his Taser because he knew that Mr. Saenz also earlier that same day had undergone five cycles of the Taser device, without effect. He had been Tased earlier in the day after he assaulted a police officer and other people at the hospital where he was being evaluated."
Jopling said that Flores drew his weapon because "Saenz could quickly front his cuffs and turn them into a deadly weapon, given his considerable strength, agility, and demonstrated resistance to the Taser At the same moment Officer Flores draws his weapon, Mr. Saenz pushes off on that curb and, with remarkable strength, sends the civilian escort flying backwards. The civilian escort's arm then hits the trigger hand of Officer Flores, causing his weapon to discharge."

DMAA was quite widely available here in bodybuilding supplements for some time. It is now banned. I don't think it is bath salts though, which is mephedrone and one other similar drug to it.

From the above, you can see that there is more to it, as there typically is. Saenz was tazed five times earlier, to no effect. He also managed to get his cuffs in front of him and then back. He was a professional athlete, I believe an El Paso champion weightlifter or something like it.

He also did not cooperate with the officer. The last sentence is interesting, the civilian's arm hitting the oficer's trigger hand. I would have to watch the video to see it.

Here's a bit of LOL from "African globe.net"
AFRICANGLOBE - Earlier this year a grand jury declined to charge an El Paso police officer in the shooting death of a prisoner. A video of the incidenct was published on Monday, after the Texas Attorney General instructed the city to fulfill a request processed by the El Paso Times. The events of the video are deeply unsettling, showing a police officer essentially executing a handcuffed Black man.
https://www.africanglobe.net/tag/daniel-rodrigo-saenz/

That to me sums it up. The African Globe saw the video and saw a black man (with a capital B) being "executed". They saw what they wanted, not what was. The evidence is the dead man was white. Not only this, but according to Flores' lawyer, it was the ***dead white man*** that accidentally struck the civilian (actually an employed guard), "sending him (the guard) flying" and the guard's arm struck the police officer's trigger hand, causing discharge of the weapon.

The incident was captured clearly on video. There was no case against Flores and this is why it was thrown out. Had the victim been black though, my guess it would have been politicised and run even though it would eventually be rejected, because it fits the MSM agenda.

He was still handcuffed and they knew he was unarmed(as he was in jail and this was just a transfer) and posed little danger to the officers, the officer should have been charged . They could have used the restraint chair or leg restraints to move him is he was uncooperative. Using a firearm on a handcuffed man like that should have never happened and he should ahve been charged as there was no justification / excuse here.

IN QLD a copper was charged (and convicted ) for just pulling his firearm out and pointing it at a motorist.
 
Court Jester said:
IN QLD a copper was charged (and convicted ) for just pulling his firearm out and pointing it at a motorist.

Have had a gun pulled on me numerous times for traffic offences (vic coppers) I have not been charged for anything and neither have the cops
Motto of the story, don't employ scared weird little stnuc as coppers
 
radiobirdman said:
Court Jester said:
IN QLD a copper was charged (and convicted ) for just pulling his firearm out and pointing it at a motorist.

Have had a gun pulled on me numerous times for traffic offences (vic coppers) I have not been charged for anything and neither have the cops
Motto of the story, don't employ scared weird little stnuc as coppers

What were you doing?
 
SpacePete said:
radiobirdman said:
Court Jester said:
IN QLD a copper was charged (and convicted ) for just pulling his firearm out and pointing it at a motorist.

Have had a gun pulled on me numerous times for traffic offences (vic coppers) I have not been charged for anything and neither have the cops
Motto of the story, don't employ scared weird little stnuc as coppers

What were you doing?
I am now imagining radiobirdman jumping the General Lee over a Vic patrol car with the horn blaring...

56qR9Kw.jpg
 
radiobirdman said:
Big A.D. said:
radiobirdman said:
And the real cost, of a drunk getting run over, SFA

Well, no it isn't, as you can see in the data.

Ice addicts getting run over and running over other people isn't cheap either, both in economic and social costs.

Yeah I seen the data, road deaths 2006
The cost of keeping a culpable driver in jail
And the drivers lost income
Don't apply
Wages to coppers and ambo's don't apply , they are getting paid anyway
A lot of so-called costs don't apply
You are a smart cookie Big A.D.
What are the real $ costs

I'm not claiming the person who gets hit and dies doesn't come out pretty badly as a result of their own actions, but there's a lot of external costs and one of them that you're ignoring is literally scraping the meat off the pavement.

That's a assuming the drunk is a pedestrian rather than a driver themselves, and there's plenty of idiots who still drink and drive (and crash).

Yes, they're on salary but if cops and ambos spend, say, 5% of their time now dealing with intoxicated people and things magically changed and nobody was ever intoxicated any more then we could reduce the number of cops and ambos by 5%. Only we can't because people do get wasted and cause problems so we have to permanently employ a certain number of people to clean up the mess. And maintain a certain number of extra hospital beds, and a certain number of extra jail cells, and a whole heap of other stuff.

A large part of the reason for having to do all that is we have an unhealthy drinking culture here, and that ends up influencing the way we take other drugs as well.
 
SpacePete said:
radiobirdman said:
Court Jester said:
IN QLD a copper was charged (and convicted ) for just pulling his firearm out and pointing it at a motorist.

Have had a gun pulled on me numerous times for traffic offences (vic coppers) I have not been charged for anything and neither have the cops
Motto of the story, don't employ scared weird little stnuc as coppers

What were you doing?

The first time I was robbing a bank according to the coppers
Reality I was out riding my motorbike
Maybe speeding a little bit
 
radiobirdman said:
Court Jester said:
IN QLD a copper was charged (and convicted ) for just pulling his firearm out and pointing it at a motorist.

Have had a gun pulled on me numerous times for traffic offences (vic coppers) I have not been charged for anything and neither have the cops
Motto of the story, don't employ scared weird little stnuc as coppers


I would say they were not infront of a camera like this QLD cop ;p
 
radiobirdman said:
SpacePete said:
radiobirdman said:
Have had a gun pulled on me numerous times for traffic offences (vic coppers) I have not been charged for anything and neither have the cops
Motto of the story, don't employ scared weird little stnuc as coppers

What were you doing?

The first time I was robbing a bank according to the coppers
Reality I was out riding my motorbike
Maybe speeding a little bit

I know a sound engineer who was "testing his equipment " quiet loud
And quiet drunk in his own home . (ex army )
2 cops didn't identify themself's ,one front door & one through the rear door
Both were disarmed & made to sit on the couch until the "real cops " turned up :o
YES he called 000 on them :lol:
Went to court , jumped on the constitution in front of the judge :o
All so called charges were thrown out :lol:
And the laws were changed after that :rolleyes:
I see young kids in uniform in the CBD all the time with guns nearly bigger than them .
And I constantly see an opportunity to take the weapon of them ..
I do know a cop who sits on the board for recruits & he did say they are having issues with the ankle bighters .
Older cops/army from the UK & Ireland have been filling the positions of older cops when they leave . :rolleyes:
What have these imports done in the UK force to be sent here ?
 
Roswell Crash Survivor said:
millededge said:
Roswell Crash Survivor said:
Equally valid for American police.

Black man lying on the ground with his hands up up in the air? Shoot him anyway!

As for this, if you do not know the power of leftism and media

The outcome justifies the means.

Meanwhile, have a look at these mugshots.

James Holmes
http://cbsnews1.cbsistatic.com/hub/...2fd03f238c78808d4cac/Holmes-Booking-Photo.jpg
Found guilty of the Aurora, Colorado cinema shooting.
Murdered 12 people, injured 70 more.

Dylan Roof
http://cdn.abclocal.go.com/content/creativecontent/images/cms/801057_1280x720.jpg
Found guilty of the church mass shooting in Charleston, South Carolina.
Murdered 9 people, injured one more.

Robert Lewis Dear, Jr.
http://16004-presscdn-0-50.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/robert-lewis-dear.jpg
Found guilty of the Planned Parenthood shooting in Colorado Springs, Colorado
Murdered 3 people, injured 9 more

All three (white) perpetrators were arrested by the police using non-lethal force.

Meanwhile, African-Americans are being shot dead in encounters with police over trivial issues.

Alton Sterling
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCMNRP10cPI[/youtube]
Shot dead while trying to sell CDs in public

Philando Castille
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5Pt1nkw3Mk[/youtube]
Shot dead after being pulled over - "for a busted taillight"

I see where you are going with this I think.

You know my position I hope. The MSM has an agenda and selectively reports. This is convincing to enough people that it remains an effective tool of influence.

Let's look at all of your examples.

Example 1. Holmes, spree shooter at a Batman premiere (SWPL audience highly likely). Rigged his house with explosives as well. Intelligent but clearly "on the spectrum" judging by his pictures and this was a planned mass homicide. Chilling and I wish he had put up a fight with police and died then and there or preferably knocked himself before the murders, but as you will see, he cooperated utterly.

Aurora police officer Jason Oviatt arrested Holmes a few minutes later, after finding him outside, standing with his hands on top of his car. Oviatt said Holmes was "completely compliant" when told to surrender. Oviatt, though, said that when he first spotted Holmes, he thought he was a fellow officer because he was dressed in full body armor and wore a gas mask and helmet. "He was just standing there not doing anything, not urgent about anything," Oviatt testified. Police seized a semiautomatic handgun with a laser sight, a semiautomatic shotgun and an AR-15 military assault rifle equipped with a 100-round magazine drum from the scene..
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/01/08/james-holmes-aurora-hearing/1816875/

Example 2. Dylann Roof. Roof went into a church and shot a group of black Christians. This was not just any church, but a highly politically significant one. I won't go into that here but will if you wish. Regardless, his victims were unarmed and executed. He did not kill the last one though, telling them they would remain alive to tell the tale. He is on death row and will die early as he has no remorse or intent to appeal.

Police recorded his arrest on dash cam. He was cooperative.
Once police pulled over his black Hyundai sedan on a highway, he nonchalantly lowered his window, handed over his ID and said, "I'm Dylann Roof," the Observer reported.
He made no effort to get himself shot.

Example 3. Robert Dear...as soon as I plug this in, the search engine is full tilt to the Left - Heavy, Huff Po, CBS, NBC, CNN, The Guardian, NYT...this man was a MGTOW mountain cabin dweller who shot a policeman and 2 civilians, taking hostages at a Planned Parenthood Center in Colorado Springs. He may have had his car set up for a propane tank detonation by firearms. The officer he shot was, ironically, a church elder.
There was a 5 hour standoff and then he surrendered. I can't find out much more about the exact process of his surrender. Cop killers are not too popular with police to my knowledge...
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...-devastated-colorado-officers-death/76525180/
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/cri...dentified-robert-lewis-dear-article-1.2448902

Example 4. Alton Sterling. Search reveals full tilt left again in terms of the hits, virtually all left. Let's start with the call to the police:
Baton Rouge Police are investigating an officer involved shooting that occurred around 12:35am this morning at 2112 North Foster Dr, Triple S Food Mart. Uniformed officers responded to a disturbance call from a complainant who stated that a black male who was selling music cd's and wearing a red shirt threatened him with a gun

The owner of the store...later saw officers pull a gun from Sterling's pocket after the shooting and acknowledged Sterling bought the firearm days earlier for protection after learning other disc sellers in the region had been robbed.
...
It's unclear how Sterling obtained the weapon. His rap sheet dates back two decades with several drug, firearm, theft and assault arrests. He was sentenced to five years to prison for marijuana and weapon possession in 2009, the Advocate reported.
...
In Louisiana, gun owners are allowed to carry weapons without a permit as long as they're over 18 and not felons
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...ing-music-baton-rouge-store-article-1.2700548

This man was described by Police Union chief Ortiz (a highly controversial figure) as a "child molester"
Whilst that does in no way excuse the police action, what seems more an issue is resistance to arrest, which Sterling clearly did. He was wrestled to the ground. One of the police then said "he's got a gun" and words to the effect that if he moved he was going to get shot. I'm not sure he even completed the sentence before shots rang out.

Example 5. Philando Castile. I think I remember this one. He fit the profile of an offender mentioned on a police radio announcement not long before he was pulled over. He had a gun and he did not comply with police requests to stop moving. His gun was in his pocket, with a wallet as I recall. The story was he was going for his pocket when shot. I recall he was high on weed. I've checked, yes this was the guy.
He did not have a permit for concealed carry (of a firearm).
https://theconservativetreehouse.co...lse-media-narrative-now-driving-cop-killings/
https://theconservativetreehouse.co...hilando-castile-handgun-at-scene-of-shooting/
According to police, Castile fit the *exact* description of an armed robbery suspect. Now, I remember looking at the CCTV footage of the robbery last year and to my thinking, it wasn't quite exact. Nonetheless, the robbery on the CCTV footage was a large black man with a handgun to the face of the shop employee.
There is clear evidence Castile did not cooperate and he was shot on this basis.

So, Roswell, do you see a rather different picture to th one that might be imputed by your selection.

The bottom line is COOPERATION with police. You resist in the USA and there is a good chance you will be shot. Holmes and Roof cooperated. Sterling and Castile did not.

Kinsey's autistic client did not cooperate, for different reasons, obviously, but it looks clear that the intent was not to shoot Kinsey, that is absurd. But the MSM ran with the narrative anyway, just as they do when the fit is close enough to effect their agenda, vis a vis Michael Brown etc.
 
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