California petrol prices... Something going on??

I believe it has something to do with the 'special' fuel used in california that is only produced in state.. and that some of their local refineries that produce this fuel are offline due to fires etc & cant import the fuels from neighbour states because they arent compatible with Cali eco regs..

or soemthing like that..
 
I don't know what they're complaining about :/

Taken today.

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I think people are confusing high petrol prices with affordability, California is an economy on the brink... can they afford $1.32AUD/l, we're going to see. A good test case for America devoid of the petrodollar
 
When I lived in the middle-east fuel was cheaper than drinking water. I was in europe a little while ago and it was over 1.80 euro/L.

Speaking of drinking water, what do you pay these days for those 600ml plastic bottles of fluoridated water solution, with a dose of leached BPA? They're about $2+ aren't they?

Aaarrrrggghhhhh!!! Holy medicated water, Batman!! Its a water crisis!!

Or it seems petrol is cheaper than (what passes for) drinking water here now. Maybe we've all just gone back to the future.
 
Gino said:
When I lived in the middle-east fuel was cheaper than drinking water. I was in europe a little while ago and it was over 1.80 euro/L.

Speaking of drinking water, what do you pay these days for those 600ml plastic bottles of fluoridated water solution, with a dose of leached BPA? They're about $2+ aren't they?

Aaarrrrggghhhhh!!! Holy medicated water, Batman!! Its a water crisis!!

Or it seems petrol is cheaper than (what passes for) drinking water here now. Maybe we've all just gone back to the future.


When I was in Italy a few years ago bottled wine was cheaper than drinking water :P
 
Having the dollar the world wants and trades oil with has no doubt been great for America. They remain lucky still with their internal oil supply and cheap oil prices. Look at their massive vehicles and percentage of hydrocarbon used per population count.
 
Apparently America has massive oil reserves in Alaska. Also they apparently they are sitting on a lot of untouched gold.

It kind of makes sense. Use the worlds resources before tapping you own.
 
(NaturalNews) If you're in California, you're paying sky-high prices for gasoline this week. At some stations, prices are over $5 a gallon. But you might not be aware of why you're paying this price. The answer may be more than a little disturbing: California's energy infrastructure is so fragile that a power outage at a single gasoline refinery caused state-wide prices to skyrocket.

Yep, an Exxon Mobil refinery in Torrance was knocked offline several days ago by a local power outage. This, in turn, caused a sudden spike in gasoline prices state-wide. This whole fiasco may have been set off by something like a single electrical transformer failing somewhere along the electrical supply chain.

Our energy infrastructure is more fragile than you think

What this really reveals is just how close to collapse California's energy infrastructure really is. And it's worse than you think, by the way: California can't import gasoline from neighboring states because its fuel refining requirements are so stringent due to air quality control concerns.

As Nancy Rivera Brooks, the LA Times editor, explained in a recent interview:

Because we have such a clean-burning recipe for gasoline here, very few refineries make it outside California, and there aren't pipelines that bring it into California from those refineries that can make it. When something goes wrong, you're stuck with what you've got in your tank.

I bet most Californians had no idea the gasoline supply across their entire state depends on a couple of high-voltage wires feeding a single refinery in Torrance. That's how amazingly fragile California's energy infrastructure really is. There are no pipelines from other states! When California's refineries go out, they're out!

And given how California is steeped in the culture of driving for hours each day, a loss of gasoline supply is the equivalent of an economic collapse. Without gasoline, in other words, California's economy grinds to a halt almost immediately. For starters, nobody can get to work!

A reminder to prepare for worse things yet to come...


More at link http://www.naturalnews.com/037454_gas_prices_California_collapse.html
 
geewiz said:
Apparently America has massive oil reserves in Alaska. Also they apparently they are sitting on a lot of untouched gold.

It kind of makes sense. Use the worlds resources before tapping you own.

I had a great theory on this, a visiting Texan filled me in on all sorts of stuff going on wrt to 5 Southern US states having an alliance (should it all go to sh*t), massive underground caverns in Texas being hollowed out with seawater and filled in with oil and gas, and massive dollar printing to buy up everyone else's stuff.

But this theory was in the old GD forum. And it got deleted.
 
geewiz said:
Apparently America has massive oil reserves in Alaska. Also they apparently they are sitting on a lot of untouched gold.

It kind of makes sense. Use the worlds resources before tapping you own.
Most important Q is what is the EROI on this stuff? NZ has heaps of oil too... but the EROI is $hit
 
rbaggio said:
geewiz said:
Apparently America has massive oil reserves in Alaska. Also they apparently they are sitting on a lot of untouched gold.

It kind of makes sense. Use the worlds resources before tapping you own.

I had a great theory on this, a visiting Texan filled me in on all sorts of stuff going on wrt to 5 Southern US states having an alliance (should it all go to sh*t), massive underground caverns in Texas being hollowed out with seawater and filled in with oil and gas, and massive dollar printing to buy up everyone else's stuff.

But this theory was in the old GD forum. And it got deleted.
Ive heard the same story from a guy from Arizona.
 
thatguy said:
geewiz said:
Apparently America has massive oil reserves in Alaska. Also they apparently they are sitting on a lot of untouched gold.

It kind of makes sense. Use the worlds resources before tapping you own.
Most important Q is what is the EROI on this stuff? NZ has heaps of oil too... but the EROI is $hit

Good question.. Don't know.

It will be interesting to see what transpires over the coming years
 
renovator said:
rbaggio said:
geewiz said:
Apparently America has massive oil reserves in Alaska. Also they apparently they are sitting on a lot of untouched gold.

It kind of makes sense. Use the worlds resources before tapping you own.

I had a great theory on this, a visiting Texan filled me in on all sorts of stuff going on wrt to 5 Southern US states having an alliance (should it all go to sh*t), massive underground caverns in Texas being hollowed out with seawater and filled in with oil and gas, and massive dollar printing to buy up everyone else's stuff.

But this theory was in the old GD forum. And it got deleted.
Ive heard the same story from a guy from Arizona.
Known as the strategic reserve - see this link for a basic treatment.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Petroleum_Reserve_(United_States)
 
BullON said:
I found a cheap water "Sydney TAP"

http://www.tapsydney.com.au/

B.

the Liquid lobotomy...my fav is giving kids infant baby formula instead of breast milk with lots of Sydney tap water... Ensures they never get to pesky with the questions and stay nice and controllable...

Yummy sydney zombie water...

Experiment... Try leaving a glass of tap water out and try to drink it the next day...

Lol.. It's a industrial waste product like fluoride but much more thick and muddy.. It is NOT calcium flouride, rather fluorosilic acid h2sif6

Also bio accumulation of toxic metals etc

I just got a water filter and my health has gone though the roof... Not being able to drink water when I wanted was a horror story... And as mentioned even the bottled water has the nasty estrogen mimicking bsp as well as the floride compound
 
Load of Bullion said:
Having the dollar the world wants and trades oil with has no doubt been great for America. They remain lucky still with their internal oil supply and cheap oil prices. Look at their massive vehicles and percentage of hydrocarbon used per population count.
19.5 million barrels per day
 
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