white-metal-man said:hope your right skipau - they do have some great products......and i really would like to go through them again..........but you know how one bad experience can affect the next.........think I'll just wait and see.....hope fully when i receive this first order - see the shinny stuff and put a smile on my face - i am sure that will change my mind and i'll go back to them like a magnet!!!..hahahaha