Bolivia nationalises Silver mine

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Noticed on http://dont-tread-on.me/ was this news about Bolivia from Zerohedge/Reuters...

Anyone long silver miner South American Silver Corp today is not happy, because while the precious metal responsible for the company top and bottom line has risen significantly, it is our old nationalizing friend, Bolivian President Evo Morales (who last year caused substantial moves higher in silver with threats to nationalize various silver mines in his resource rich if everything else poor country) who has stolen the spotlight, with his latest announcement that he is on his way to nationalize SAC.TO's Malku Khota property, which the company describes as "one of the world's largest undeveloped silver, indium and gallium deposits" and which El Pais adds "is considered one of the largest undeveloped silver deposits, with reserves estimated at 230 million ounces, and at least 2,000 tons of indium, gallium and gold as well." Of course, while this is good news for the actual precious metals as it means much more supply is coming offline, it is very bad for mining and extraction companies such as South American Silver, which stand to lose one after another property to a repeat of last year's wave of nationalization. Indeed, at last check SAC.TO was down 27% today alone and plunging.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/south...it-will-nationalize-one-worlds-largest-silver-
 
Now this... this is interesting!!
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I remember reading somewhere that nationalization almost always means mine output going off a cliff
In conclusion, if before there was any doubt as to why miners trade at such notable discounts to the underlying precious metal, we hope that incidents such as this one give a good glimpse into the real ugly underbelly of what very well may happen to offshore projects if and when destitute countries decide to follow in the path of Argentina and Bolivia.
Yup am happy I am sticking to phys


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i wouldnt care what effect this had on the silver world to be honest +/-. This can (hopefully) only mean good things for Bolivia. As long as they keep extracting the silver and keep mining going, they'll reap the rewards 100%.
I love it.
 
LovingtheSilver said:
They're nationalising a lot of mines, not just silver mines

I wonder how long before there's a NATO invasion on 'humanitarian' grounds?
 
dex said:
i wouldnt care what effect this had on the silver world to be honest +/-. This can (hopefully) only mean good things for Bolivia. As long as they keep extracting the silver and keep mining going, they'll reap the rewards 100%.
I love it.
srsly? No
 
thatguy said:
srsly? No

??? Im no expert, but wont this mean more money for the not so rich people of Bolivia? People will still buy their resources, even if they're shunned against at first.

Then again, a vast proportion of the money would probably only stay in the "rich's/elites" hands. This wouldnt change the econmoy or social structure of Bolivia, as resource revenue is not the whole answer but only a portion of any countries revenue. A complete social structure and shift within the country would have to change, for any real benefit to the people.

so maybe only in theory it sounds good, i did just wake up tho, picked up the laptop and instantly thought of a "power to the people" scenario. But i guess it takes alot more than that.
 
http://www.pej.org/html/modules.php...=article&sid=9714&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

Just something i googled, quite interesting as the people seem to want it, protesting and taking a couple of hostages including a police officer lol. I guess these people do have the fight in them to achieve, not that im condoning taking hostages.
the government is also moving towards socialism tho broad term, it is what the country needs right???

I didnt no much or even the name of the bolivian goverenment, but since checking up the goverenment facts and seeing its evo morales (sounds like a boxer ;) ), also have realised that his name has popped up alot on SS lately, he doesnt seem like a bad guy and is at least responding to the people and for the people without tyranny.
 
dex said:
thatguy said:
srsly? No

??? Im no expert, but wont this mean more money for the not so rich people of Bolivia? People will still buy their resources, even if they're shunned against at first.

Then again, a vast proportion of the money would probably only stay in the "rich's/elites" hands. This wouldnt change the econmoy or social structure of Bolivia, as resource revenue is not the whole answer but only a portion of any countries revenue. A complete social structure and shift within the country would have to change, for any real benefit to the people.

so maybe only in theory it sounds good, i did just wake up tho, picked up the laptop and instantly thought of a "power to the people" scenario. But i guess it takes alot more than that.
I wish it meant a better quality of life for the Bolivian people, but in reality is a bad thing and will result in more poverty for the Bolivian people and a lot more money for a very few :(
 
Well, old Evo famously privatised Boliva's water supply

...and just did a crackerjack job of that one too! :rolleyes:
 
Please correct me if im wrong. But from my nieve/laymans analysis of Nationalising natural resources it can eaither mean:

A) The profit from the mine will either go into the hands of a few, (as suggested by thatguy)

or

B) Be used to build up a country, weather it be building infastructure, roads, hopitals etc.

its a gamble depending upon how corrupt the government is.

If it was a privatised mine then the profits will go to the shareholders and be shipped off-shore most likely, and the people will still see no results from the mine.
 
Clawhammer said:
Well, old Evo famously privatised Boliva's water supply

...and just did a crackerjack job of that one too! :rolleyes:

haha, by the hints of sarcasm it sounds like a doozy. Care sharing the story or link?? i cant be bothered searching but wouldnt mind a laugh.
 
hussman said:
Please correct me if im wrong. But from my nieve/laymans analysis of Nationalising natural resources it can eaither mean:

A) The profit from the mine will either go into the hands of a few, (as suggested by thatguy)

or

B) Be used to build up a country, weather it be building infastructure, roads, hopitals etc.

its a gamble depending upon how corrupt the government is.

If it was a privatised mine then the profits will go to the shareholders and be shipped off-shore most likely, and the people will still see no results from the mine.

That's assuming they are at all interested in maintaining mining output in the current economic circumstances. If they were, why wouldn't they just introduce a MRRT like Julia and Wayne have done instead of an out-and-out nationalisation, which implies at least a degree of confiscation from the current owners/operators.

Could it be that he doesn't like the idea of Wall Street Banksters and corrupt crony corporatists getting rich off suppressing the price of his countries metals and minerals? Bolivia more than most countries may have noticed the finacial benefits of a higher Silver price last year and considered what needs to happen to sustain it. I don't suppose Evo would be high on Jamie Dimon's list of friends.

Certainly an interesting development.
 
dex said:
Clawhammer said:
Well, old Evo famously privatised Boliva's water supply

...and just did a crackerjack job of that one too! :rolleyes:

haha, by the hints of sarcasm it sounds like a doozy. Care sharing the story or link?? i cant be bothered searching but wouldnt mind a laugh.

He sold off the country's decrepit water infrastructure to an equally decrepit US company to supply water to Bolivian households, farms and 'cough-cough' industries.
When the stupid company found out what a shambles the aging pipes, dams and sewers were in (AFTER they'd signed the contract :rolleyes: ) they jacked up prices into triple-digit percentage increases.

When households started getting water from public water taps because they had their home water cut-off for not paying... the govt cut off supply to public water taps.
When people started gathering water from streams, the police started arresting them.
When the Govt made it illegal for people to collect the rainwater that fell on their roofs... they started rioting in the street and attacking our old mate Evo. :D
 
Clawhammer said:
dex said:
Clawhammer said:
Well, old Evo famously privatised Boliva's water supply

...and just did a crackerjack job of that one too! :rolleyes:

haha, by the hints of sarcasm it sounds like a doozy. Care sharing the story or link?? i cant be bothered searching but wouldnt mind a laugh.

He sold off the country's decrepit water infrastructure to an equally decrepit US company to supply water to Bolivian households, farms and 'cough-cough' industries.
When the stupid company found out what a shambles the aging pipes, dams and sewers were in (AFTER they'd signed the contract :rolleyes: ) they jacked up prices into triple-digit percentage increases.

When households started getting water from public water taps because they had their home water cut-off for not paying... the govt cut off supply to public water taps.
When people started gathering water from streams, the police started arresting them.
When the Govt made it illegal for people to collect the rainwater that fell on their roofs... they started rioting in the street and attacking our old mate Evo. :D

Hey Clawhammer, where did you get this info? Is there a doco I can watch?
 
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