Bob Chapman

so.... for noobs....

is it:
1. He has accurately predicted *blank* (please fill in)
or
2. He has been wrong on a few occasions and enough time hasnt elapsed for the rest of his predictions to be proven right or wrong?
or
3. He has never been correct on anything

edited to add the last.
 
Earthjade said:
Yippe-Ki-Ya said:
Similarly, i could enquire as to why you did not answer the question that i posed to you? :D

You posed a question?
I think it might have been this one?

Or do you figure the sheeple that listen to FOX are the one's you should be going to to for advice on who to listen to? lol

My answer is this:
People should do their own research and then make up their own minds as to what they should believe.
To get you started, here is a suggested reading list:

Adam Smith
David Ricardo
Karl Marx
Leon Walras
John Maynard Keynes
Milton Friedman

Karl Marx, John Maynard Keynes??? Thanks but no thanks! :lol:
 
Yippe-Ki-Ya said:
Earthjade said:
Yippe-Ki-Ya said:
Similarly, i could enquire as to why you did not answer the question that i posed to you? :D

You posed a question?
I think it might have been this one?

Or do you figure the sheeple that listen to FOX are the one's you should be going to to for advice on who to listen to? lol

My answer is this:
People should do their own research and then make up their own minds as to what they should believe.
To get you started, here is a suggested reading list:

Adam Smith
David Ricardo
Karl Marx
Leon Walras
John Maynard Keynes
Milton Friedman

Karl Marx, John Maynard Keynes??? Thanks but no thanks! :lol:

Always helps to know thine enemy Yippee
 
mickjohn said:
so.... for noobs....

is it:
1. He has accurately predicted *blank* (please fill in)
or
2. He has been wrong on a few occasions and enough time hasnt elapsed for the rest of his predictions to be proven right or wrong?
or
3. He has never been correct on anything

edited to add the last.
This! + examples.
 
Personally like Chapman,Schiff, Keiser, Maloney and Morgan.

Hard to tell me there message is wrong? Really are any of there predictions that wrong or just not 100% on the money to date?

Anyone on the forum who want to put there hand up as an expert and make a prediction today on spot by COB 30 DEC 2011? Pretty easy calling the game Monday morning...if not please post AND PM me your call - prepared to take bets
 
southerncross said:
Always helps to know thine enemy Yippee

If you think that the governments and the central banks of the world today are Keynesian or Marxist in any way whatsoever, then you will need to explain to me why this is so.
I'm always up for a discussion of economic theory - helps me vindicate the four years I spent getting an economics degree.
 
Ag said:
Personally like Chapman,Schiff, Keiser, Maloney and Morgan.

Hard to tell me there message is wrong? Really are any of there predictions that wrong or just not 100% on the money to date?

Anyone on the forum who want to put there hand up as an expert and make a prediction today on spot by COB 30 DEC 2011? Pretty easy calling the game Monday morning...if not please post AND PM me your call - prepared to take bets

I find these threads very entertaining... it always manages to flush the roaches out of the woodwork! :lol:
 
Earthjade said:
Bob Chapman is the kind of guy that appeals to those Americans that are buying gold and silver to stash in their rural compound whilst stocking up on canned food and ammunition.
I've put this guy into the "do not listen - conservative crackpot" basket.
All three of 'em?
 
Earthjade said:
southerncross said:
Always helps to know thine enemy Yippee

If you think that the governments and the central banks of the world today are Keynesian or Marxist in any way whatsoever, then you will need to explain to me why this is so.
I'm always up for a discussion of economic theory - helps me vindicate the four years I spent getting an economics degree.

are you for real???

i suppose i shouldnt be too surprised. after all - look at the endless number of "economists' that support the carbon tax as good policy and who thought that handing out $900 cheques of borrowed/stolen money and paying 10 times too much for school halls was a great idea to address the GFC.

not to mention - they couldn't see the GFC coming. yet the Austrian economists could see it coming years before the time.

mate- the cr@p they taught u at uni aint economics...
 
Earthjade said:
southerncross said:
Always helps to know thine enemy Yippee

If you think that the governments and the central banks of the world today are Keynesian or Marxist in any way whatsoever, then you will need to explain to me why this is so.
I'm always up for a discussion of economic theory - helps me vindicate the four years I spent getting an economics degree.

That was not my statement , but although both have made relevant contributions you must admit both also had major faults and detractors.
 
not to mention - they couldn't see the GFC coming. yet the Austrian economists could see it coming years before the time.

Austrian economics...let's talk about it.
Several things have always puzzled me about the Austrian School:

One such puzzle is the fact that in a depression, the reduction in productive output is the result of a contraction in the money supply combined with a rigidity in wages.
However, this is at odds with Bohm-Bawerk who claimed that in times of depression when investment preferences re-assert themselves, the result for the consumer goods sector would actually be short-term growth.
What is even doubly weird is in Human Action, Mises writes that credit crunches and deflation has never played any noticeable role in economic history!

So, what's that all about?
 
southerncross said:
That was not my statement , but although both have made relevant contributions you must admit both also had major faults and detractors.

I agree with this.
But the same can be said of any school of economics.
Just a few problems:

Marxism - too much political dogma
Keynesianism - couldn't account for stagflation
Neoclassical - can't account for time
Austrian School - principles of economic crisis are logically inconsistent
Monetarism - has put us in the **** we are in today. yet somehow, everyone blames Keynes? Makes no sense.
 
silvstack said:
i too wonder about yky's responses, they seem impulsive and lacking any depth. i asked a simple question in another thread and she abandoned it entirely - specifically,

Woah Woah Woah.... YKY is a female?

My world has been flipped on its head...
 
Earthjade said:
southerncross said:
That was not my statement , but although both have made relevant contributions you must admit both also had major faults and detractors.

I agree with this.
But the same can be said of any school of economics.
Just a few problems:

Marxism - too much political dogma
Keynesianism - couldn't account for stagflation
Neoclassical - can't account for time
Austrian School - principles of economic crisis are logically inconsistent
Monetarism - has put us in the **** we are in today. yet somehow, everyone blames Keynes? Makes no sense.


Human nature, the X Factor.

While everything else can be rationalized, emotion and reaction are an individual response and cant be quantified in response to ethics, politics or economics as each is an individual response that reacts to each external stimuli separately. For example each member on this forum has an individual response say to a rise or fall in interest rates that in general might be predictable overall but individually may take a differing path to resolve what a rise or fall in interest rates means to them seperatley.

Just as each of the schools of thought above each have their own issues trying to nail down a big picture it is the individual pixel's that really either blur or sharpen the big picture. The powers that be IE Politics , big Banksters and mega big Business take a broad brush approach which is based largely on the Keynes doctrine, aggregate demand.

When all the (attempted) fine tuning in the world still leads to the result of a false economy , one that is balanced towards the top end of the food chain rather than the minutia of economics , is it any wonder that Keynes ideology cops the blame ?

Monetarism is a direct result of the Keynes doctrine albeit an adaption to the original it still follows Friedmans interpretation in todays world.

Chaos theory would probably be more adapt when the reality of todays economics are taken into account, while there are general rules they are all based on a eurocentric understanding and have less relevance as time passes and the scale of economy takes on a more global flavour.
 
It seems the essence of this thread is "Bob Chapman" envy. Deep down all of you want him to be right so badly. Bob is silver's whipping boy...
 
systematic said:
It seems the essence of this thread is "Bob Chapman" envy. Deep down all of you want him to be right so badly. Bob is silver's whipping boy...

Not really, if he cant get the timing right thats fine, I just want him to shut up rather than act like everything that comes out of his mouth is gospel truth.
 
silvstack said:
i too wonder about yky's responses, they seem impulsive and lacking any depth. i asked a simple question in another thread and she abandoned it entirely - specifically,

silvstack said:
please, Yippe-Ki-Ya, to me your pronouncement seems at odds with everything here so this seems really essential ...

if you believe

Yippe-Ki-Ya said:
... that silver is NOT being manipulated! ... Those who still believe in the manipulation story are part of the silver liberation army and are doomed to failure in my opinion!

then

silvstack said:
WHY STACK? afterall, if the particular futures at issue are legit, why not invest in paper and electronic silver. i wonder if a stacker reasoning that there is no such manipulation is self-contradictory. :)
I like yippees shoot from the hip comments they are highly entertaining
 
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