Bigger Profit In 2014 Panda or 2014 Reverse Maple Leaf Horse?

Does the milk spots devalue the coin? I mean will they still sell at the high premiums in the future?
 
Gucci said:
As for as flipping by next week, I can do that with any coin.

You make flipping sound so easy!

Maybe it's easier in the US but here, not so much! it's quite hard really to make any flipping.

I've always been tempted to sell on ebay but I'm constantly discouraged by all the requirements, paypal, credit card and all that crap... (fees, taxes, shipping) :(
 
The panda will be worth more.
Gucci said:
Phiber said:
Gucci said:
But there in air tights

Maples are famous for milk spots - has been the case for years.
Due to cleaning issues in the minting process.

O.. So it's not just the 2013's? See this is my first time buying maples and when I did my research on youtube everyone with the problem all had those 25th ed maple's so I figured it was just those. But the 2014 has a special paint on it. Do you think they will show up on them?
Milk spots form during the annealing process. The coins are baked and cooled to prevent brittleness. Sometimes a fluid (borax?) is left over during the proccess and it gets baked in. Milk spots just don't form over time and they don't grow or get smaller either
 
If I knew , I'd want $10k to let you in on the secret :P
Honestly one of the dumbest questions , but lots of people ask it :rolleyes:
You sound more like a flipper than a stacker
Good luck
 
centenario said:
Gucci said:
As for as flipping by next week, I can do that with any coin.

You make flipping sound so easy!

Maybe it's easier in the US but here, not so much! it's quite hard really to make any flipping.

I've always been tempted to sell on ebay but I'm constantly discouraged by all the requirements, paypal, credit card and all that crap... (fees, taxes, shipping) :(

o I see... Yeah i'm in the usa. For me ebay charges no fees whatsoever. I only have to pay for shipping. There's no listing fees, taxes, or anything. I'm paid through my paypal account. Maybe it's due to the lack of restriction is why it's so easy for me. Because for me I can sell anything apmex has listed for cheaper to anyone on ebay simply by getting it from jmbullion. I just haven't did international shipping yet because I would lose profit through the shipping charges unless I put the cost on the buyer.
 
Mjduzane said:
The panda will be worth more.
Gucci said:
Phiber said:
Maples are famous for milk spots - has been the case for years.
Due to cleaning issues in the minting process.

O.. So it's not just the 2013's? See this is my first time buying maples and when I did my research on youtube everyone with the problem all had those 25th ed maple's so I figured it was just those. But the 2014 has a special paint on it. Do you think they will show up on them?
Milk spots form during the annealing process. The coins are baked and cooled to prevent brittleness. Sometimes a fluid (borax?) is left over during the proccess and it gets baked in. Milk spots just don't form over time and they don't grow or get smaller either

I see. So if it's not already there is want appear later on right?
 
spannermonkey said:
If I knew , I'd want $10k to let you in on the secret :P
Honestly one of the dumbest questions , but lots of people ask it :rolleyes:
You sound more like a flipper than a stacker
Good luck

Yeah I started off stacking but I had no money because I was a teen so the only thing I could do was have my dad sell my things on ebay & collect the small profit which allowed me to rebuy things & I did this overtime. The profit aren't huge maybe $1-3 dollars off a 1oz coin.
 
Gucci said:
This guy has made a great point. I'm almost convinced to buy panda over the maple. The only fear I had with buying panada in the past was.. I was going to buy gold pandas but I figured they might be hard to sell in the future due to china making fake bullion coins since I sell on ebay.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA4p3HMjRh4 @ 6:00

If those are your two choices, I would mostly go with the Pandas for silver. But as others posted, those would not be my choices. AGEs for gold.
 
dccpa said:
Gucci said:
This guy has made a great point. I'm almost convinced to buy panda over the maple. The only fear I had with buying panada in the past was.. I was going to buy gold pandas but I figured they might be hard to sell in the future due to china making fake bullion coins since I sell on ebay.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA4p3HMjRh4 @ 6:00

If those are your two choices, I would mostly go with the Pandas for silver. But as others posted, those would not be my choices. AGEs for gold.

What would be your choices? :D
 
Gucci said:
dccpa said:
Gucci said:
This guy has made a great point. I'm almost convinced to buy panda over the maple. The only fear I had with buying panada in the past was.. I was going to buy gold pandas but I figured they might be hard to sell in the future due to china making fake bullion coins since I sell on ebay.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA4p3HMjRh4 @ 6:00

If those are your two choices, I would mostly go with the Pandas for silver. But as others posted, those would not be my choices. AGEs for gold.

What would be your choices? :D

For the area you are considering, there aren't any good choices right now, because the premiums on the newer coins are too high when compared to the spot price of silver. When I bought my lunar tigers in 2010, the premium I paid was less than $4. Now silver is about the same price and they want a $15 premium for the lunar horses. Pandas are too numerous and there are too many fakes around for them gain a good premium. Yennus will jump and tell you that there are x number of Chinese. But those Chinese haven't been buying the Pandas and there is no reason to think they will. The Canadian coins have the milkspot reputation and that is harming their values. Unless privacy is a concern, I would also eliminate the ASEs as the premium is too high for a bullion coin with no special features. I sold my ASEs this summer when silver went back to $22.

If I was buying silver right now, I would look for the following:

90% silver at a very low premium.
1 oz rounds and bars at a very low premium (minted by a popular mint).
semi numismatic or numismatic coins. My 2010 tigers are holding up very well and the 2008 mice I got by swapping a mint box of ASEs have increased in value. If I had more time, I would gain the expertise to buy some numismatic coins, but I don't have the time.

In 2010, my strategy was the same as yours. Now the premiums have changed and so has my strategy.

Good luck.
 
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