Big Perth Mint Delivery

goldpelican said:
Sparrow said:
Can yo suggest anything more feasible?
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Sure - open storage facilities with a private vault in Melbourne, Sydney or Brisbane, or even split some between each location. Get an allocated holding with the Perth Mint (actual bars/coins set aside). Buy some PMGOLD through an Australian broker.
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I guess I have already answered why this will not work for me. If I believe that after the collapse they must confiscate all they can reach there is no way I can trust any company. I do not trust the Brother.
 
sparrow we are a long way from that atm if & when it comes & im not convinced it will in the near future go & get it out you might have a better plan or a house & a safe by then
 
renovator said:
sparrow we are a long way from that atm if & when it comes & im not convinced it will in the near future go & get it out you might have a better plan or a house & a safe by then
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I am not waiting for an official notice about confiscating.

If I see the danger I am obliged to take measures. Now. What could justify an inaction? Really.

I do not see any relevance to any of my house or a safe. Anyway I am not going to move to Australia but I have to protect the stuff there.
 
goldpelican said:
I think the question a lot of us are asking is, why on earth would you want to bury precious metals on land you don't own?

Sure there's secluded places - but not within 100km of Perth. Read mmm....shiney!'s post above. It's a very good way to lose whatever you bury. Someone WILL stumble across it in the course of farming/camping/hunting/prospecting/hiking/dumping a body/looking for a body etc, no matter where in the state. We have a nasty little habit in Australia of wanting to go and visit those secluded places as part of 4WD trips etc too. I found $40 on a beach in the far north west of the state (full day 4WD driving from anywhere) BECAUSE I TOOK A METAL DETECTOR, and at any one time there's 10,000 other people all out there doing the same thing because it's a gold state. It's a seriously bad bad bad idea.
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I agree! No wonder goldbugs are stereotyped as tin hat wearing conspiracy nuts.

What's wrong with a private vault facility for a large stash?

And if you are heading out burrying only $30k worth then you need your head checked and your delusion of grandeur kept in check.
 
jelliott41 said:
I agree! No wonder goldbugs are stereotyped as tin hat wearing conspiracy nuts.
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It seems you are not one of them. I hope you are right as long as possible. I enjoy my life now.

But to sleep better I have to listen to my tin hat suggestions sometimes. Sometimes it has been right.:)



jelliott41 said:
What's wrong with a private vault facility for a large stash?
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The Brother know all the places where non-tin has have put their PM and will be very grateful for making it so convenient for Him.

jelliott41 said:
And if you are heading out burrying only $30k worth then you need your head checked and your delusion of grandeur kept in check.
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What the size of the stash has to to with the idea? The size is anyway subjective. What is large for one is very small for another. What I want to protect is LARGE enough for me to travel to Australia!
 
Golden said:
You could also buy a small piece of land somewhere far from the city. Should be cheap.
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If you genuinely want to bury your stash, this suggestion is the only way to do it.

Except for the trespassing metal detectorists :rolleyes: Buy in an area that's NOT known for being a historic goldfield.

The Brother's bumbling buffoon brother drew the short straw and got Australia. Don't be too sure of the ability of government down here to achieve much at all (I should know, I get to work on their IT systems!).

PS Minding gold for people from overseas is a multi-billion dollar industry in Australia. Probably more than is held privately domestically. It's not something we're about to screw with.
 
Sparrow said:
Golden said:
You could also buy a small piece of land somewhere far from the city. Should be cheap.
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This is a good point.

A am considering it. Can you suggest any area?
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Mate, if you are serious about buying land in remote places I can help you.

However in remote places people still will cross onto your land regardless. Same in urban areas.

Check out the real estate agents "landmark" they specialize in acreage and farms. You can pick up land at about $75/acre but will likely have to buy 10,000 acres.

Alternatively I know of some cheap semi rural land where I am. However there is a lot of rain and your stack might get exposed.

You'll probably need to put them in a container, fill the container with concrete (so the silver is mixed in with the concrete) and make one solid block to bury.

If you then waterproof the block with a couple of layers or epoxy resin it should be quite secure.

Then you will need to create some anchors underground to prevent your block from
Shifting due to ground water etc.

I would suggest pouring 2 x 3 cubic meter solid blocks of concrete at each of the upper corners of your land about 2m underground.

You then need to attach a stainless steel chain using chemset bolts to each of these blocks and run the chains underground to where your silver block is. Attach the chains to this block now.

Then, to disguise the purpose of all your digging etc you will need to pour a floating slab complete with working plumbing over your stash.

On top of the slab just build a cheap project home. These are easy to come by and quick to erect. Go for the core-filled concrete block range and not the timber frame style though.

Once the house is complete all you need to do is tenant your house with a young family. This averts any suspicion as to why you built the house.

For all outward impressions you will look like a property investor...and no one would think
A property investor owns silver. Also no one robs property investors cos everyone knows that they only have debt.

Let me know if you need a hand setting up this storage facility for you. All combined it shouldn't cost more than $500,000 including my project management fee.
 
goldpelican said:
Except for the trespassing metal detectorists :rolleyes: Buy in an area that's NOT known for being a historic goldfield.

The Brother's bumbling buffoon brother drew the short straw and got Australia. Don't be too sure of the ability of government down here to achieve much at all (I should know, I get to work on their IT systems!).
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Thanks. Great suggestion.

They had no problem raiding all the depositories in Russia. Anyone has enough brain power to show a mandate and a gun to make it more convincing.


goldpelican said:
PS Minding gold for people from overseas is a multi-billion dollar industry in Australia. Probably more than is held privately domestically. It's not something we're about to screw with.
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I doubt that AFTER the fiat collapse your government will be concerned with its reputation. I am quite sure they will pay for the PM some paper. So it will not be a highway robbery anyway.:D
 
renovator said:
hahahaha jelliot 500K thats cheap !!!
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Exactly. I can do one for you too if you like?

Infact I might create a little subdivision just for silver Stackers to bury their stacks.

I'll call it "silver creek sub-diversion"
 
jelliott41 said:
Check out the real estate agents "landmark" they specialize in acreage and farms. You can pick up land at about $75/acre but will likely have to buy 10,000 acres.
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Very good info. Thanks.
 
Best Thread this week! :lol:

I can only assume Sparrow is from the USA where paranoia (and it seems everything else) is super-sized and the notion that other places in the world are NOT the same as the Land of the Free is never considered.
 
Sparrow said:
jelliott41 said:
Check out the real estate agents "landmark" they specialize in acreage and farms. You can pick up land at about $75/acre but will likely have to buy 10,000 acres.
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Very good info. Thanks.
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In all seriousness, what you are trying to do is very risky.

"remote Australia" is uninhabitable. If you can get there by car it is not remote...especially if you need to move hundreds of kilos of dead weight away from road access. Also, we aren't like other countries where these remote areas have service stations close by. You will need a lot of fuel and water.

What we do have that is remote is only accessible by air. Infact some clients of mine use a helicopter to get to the other side of their property 100km away. Ask yourself how many KGs you need to move and if it can be done by helicopter.

If the land is dry and baron you will have less chance of cattle drivers passing through your land.

You can reach this type of land by helicopter but you face the same problem...2nd party knowledge. So you really need to go to these places alone.

The movie "Wolfe Creek" is an excellent example of how things can be hidden in WA as well as the character of the locals you can expect to get assistance from.

Watch "Japanese Story" also which shows how accessible by 4WD WA is. Also a good lesson in how not to dive into an Australian Billabong.
 
Have you heard of a land called Van Diemans Land.

Great place to have a ship wreck.

Metal detactors do not work there due to electricity created by hydro power.

GPS is the same due to bogan oveload.

Airports & wharfs have sniifer dogs only trained to detect only foriegn fruit & not PM's.

Send me a private messages & will tell you you how to sink you boat.

Good luck with your juorney............
 
jelliott41 said:
If the land is dry and baron you will have less chance of cattle drivers passing through your land.
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What is the problem with cattle drivers if the PM is 7 feet under?
 
jelliott41 said:
In all seriousness, what you are trying to do is very risky.

"remote Australia" is uninhabitable. If you can get there by car it is not remote...especially if you need to move hundreds of kilos of dead weight away from road access.
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I think that I do not need THAT remote a place.

I envision just setting up a tent and doing everything from inside of it.

So it will not look in any way suspicious. Some tourists are resting for a day.

I am not going to put in one pit too much of the PM.

I do not see why it cannot be done in almost any place by the road?
 
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