Australian Gold Repatriation Petition - Draft

AuAussie said:
It's good and I like it. However to make it more professional and politically acceptable, I'd recommend using less "extreme" or "polarizing" words. Basically tone down the superlatives to read more neutral, unbiased and scientific.

I agree with you on this point AuAussie.

I have had enough draft documents be passed up the chain and the knocked back down due to just one word or sentence to know how careful you need to be in your wording!

Edit: I would almost consider removing point 7 which discusses a 'world currency'. Its not that I disagree with what is said, but immediately there are people who will read it and lump you in with conspiracy theorists and all the attendant negative connotatons that label has.

I think you can make your point whilst avoiding the more controversial aspects of the topic. It may feel like you are selling out, but to actually have a chance of anyone acting on your roposal they need to be able to sell it to a lot of sceptical people.
 
As long as Julia Gillar is Prime Minister this is not going to happen!

I dont even think the Liberal party has the balls to ask for it.

Still - lets expose the emeror's no-clothes secret! :)
 
SilverSanchez said:
As long as Julia Gillar is Prime Minister this is not going to happen!

I dont even think the Liberal party has the balls to ask for it.

Still - lets expose the emeror's no-clothes secret! :)

Left-Right (Party A vs Party B) is like Left foot and Right foot, both tread and follow the same path.
 
It would also be interesting to see the names and address's of silverstacker members on the petition. Just out of curiosity, of course.
 
boston said:
It would also be interesting to see the names and address's of silverstacker members on the petition. Just out of curiosity, of course.

True that, but GetUp constantly circumvents any need to forward their members addresses to successfully & effectively lobby the Gov on a number of issues. I don't know how they work around this but they do it.
 
mmm....shiney! said:
Gino said:
I stated out just with Gold only but couldn't really justify not including the total PM complex. After all they each have currency symbols. I like the idea of a strategic store of Silver, etc. along with gold, it is a diversification really, but only applies to the collection of taxes from those mining PMs.

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Gold is the only reserve asset

That's a very good point.
 
Emanance said:
boston said:
It would also be interesting to see the names and address's of silverstacker members on the petition. Just out of curiosity, of course.

True that, but GetUp constantly circumvents any need to forward their members addresses to successfully & effectively lobby the Gov on a number of issues. I don't know how they work around this but they do it.

From "How to petition the Senate"
http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Petitions/Senate_Petitions/petitions

The Senate will accept a print out of a petition that has been posted on an internet page and that people have 'signed' by submitting their names and email addresses.

The online petition will only require a name and email address.
 
GoldenEgg said:
Precious metals mining tax? don't go giving them ideas.I won't be signing this.

I think Gino is referring to the use of bullion as payment of taxes in kind as opposed to any extra tax.
 
mmm....shiney! said:
GoldenEgg said:
Precious metals mining tax? don't go giving them ideas.I won't be signing this.

I think Gino is referring to the use of bullion as payment of taxes in kind as opposed to any extra tax.

Yes, as an efficient means of collecting taxes that are payable that would also directly contribute to the national gold holdings. It's a suggestion for consideration only.

Again, if you have any suggestions for wording please post here.
 
Ok. The refined and toned down text is below. I believe it now incorporates all contributions (I missed a couple in the last version).

To the Honourable President and members of the Senate in Parliament assembled:

The petition of the undersigned shows: (state grievance or subject of complaint)

That in the increasingly uncertain global financial circumstances, Australians are very concerned about the financial stability of the Commonwealth of Australia and the counter-party risk associated with holding national assets in financially distressed countries like the UK that have an increasingly negative credit rating outlook. We are concerned that the increasingly loose monetary policies of international Central Banks, such as Zero Interest Rate Policies and Quantitative Easing are debasing their respective currencies and are:

1) Impacting the Australian currency by raising its comparative value and reducing the international competitiveness of our export industries and labour markets;
2) Undermining the basis of trust in the international currency regime that has been the historic hallmark of the affluence of developed economies since the Second World War, while growing international tensions;
3) Increasingly seeing developing nations seeking to protect the wealth realised in their development by diversifying their foreign currency reserves through active accumulation initiatives of gold by their central banks. These countries are reported to include China, Russia, India, South Korea, Thailand, Mexico, Brazil, Paraguay, Columbia, Argentina and Azerbaijan;
4) Forcing both mature and emerging nations to prudently repatriate their national gold reserves from the historical financial centres of London and New York back to their own soil in increasing numbers. Countries reported to have or are undertaking such repatriation efforts include Germany, Venezuela, Ecuador, Mexico, Romania, Azerbaijan, Libya and Iran;
5) Increasingly seeing concerned citizens of nations around the globe petition their governments to audit and account for their gold reserves. Countries with such initiatives include USA, Netherlands, Switzerland and Australia;
6) Seeing the international investment strategies hedging the risk of devaluing global currencies by investing in agricultural and industrial commodities, precious metals and other tangible assets that will push inflationary effects into the real economy; and
7) Increasing the likelihood that an alternate international reserve currency will be adopted to replace the US dollar, which will be wholly or partially backed by gold as a necessity for restoring confidence in an independent reference of value. Reported potential alternatives include the SDR of the IMF and the Chinese national currency.

Your petitioners ask that the Senate: (state the action required)

Establish initiatives for the Commonwealth of Australia to:
a) Remove the conflict of interest of the Reserve Bank of Australia between its role as national gold custodian and issuer of the national currency, by transferring the role of National Gold Custodian to the Treasury of the Commonwealth of Australia in Canberra.
b) Repatriate its gold reserves from London back to Australia to be held on Australian soil; and
c) Begin an ongoing program of accumulating gold reserves, considering the efficiency of collecting taxes payable from precious metal mining companies in the refined metals they extract as a means of adding to those reserves.

Name Email Address
(To be collected by electronic petition)

I have a question regarding the appropriateness of including point (a) in the petitioned actions. I fundamentally believe there is a conflict of interest between the RBA as a currency printer and interest rate setter and its role as custodian of the national gold reserve, but I think that it is too prescriptive to start making statements about the Treasury taking on direct responsibility. So my question is "Would it be better to petition the government to re-instate gold as a reserve asset and if so, how should that be phrased?"

Both HiHo and mmm....shiney! have made observations on this point. Any suggestions?
 
After some further reflection a few other changes have resulted that make the whole thing much more concise and meaningful. Without any further input this is the best I can do and at this stage am happy with it. I have sought some external comment.

To the Honourable President and members of the Senate in Parliament assembled:

The petition of the undersigned shows: (state grievance or subject of complaint)

That in the increasingly uncertain global financial circumstances, Australians are very concerned about the impacts on the Commonwealth of Australia and the counter-party risks associated with holding national assets in financially distressed countries like the UK that have an increasingly negative credit rating outlook. We are concerned that the progressively loose monetary policies of foreign Central Banks, such as Zero Interest Rate Policies and Quantitative Easing are debasing their national currencies and are:

1) Impacting the Australian economy by raising the comparative value of our currency and reducing the international competitiveness of our export industries and labour markets;
2) Undermining the basis of trust in the international currency regime that has been the historic hallmark of the affluence of developed economies since the Second World War, while growing international tensions;
3) Increasingly seeing developing nations seeking to protect the wealth realised in their development by diversifying their foreign currency reserves through gold accumulation initiatives of their central banks. These countries are reported to include China, Russia, India, South Korea, Thailand, Mexico, Brazil, Paraguay, Columbia, Argentina and Azerbaijan;
4) Forcing prudent nations, of both mature and emerging economies, to repatriate their national gold reserves from the historical financial centres of London and New York back to their own soil in increasing numbers. Countries reported to have or are undertaking such repatriation efforts include Germany, Venezuela, Ecuador, Mexico, Romania, Azerbaijan, Libya and Iran;
5) Causing citizens of nations around the world to become sufficiently concerned over the potential impacts to petition their governments to audit and account for their gold reserves. Countries with such initiatives include USA, Netherlands, Switzerland and Australia;
6) Seeing international investment strategies hedging the risk of devaluing global currencies by investing in agricultural and industrial commodities, precious metals and other tangible assets that push inflationary effects into the real economy; and
7) Increasing the likelihood that a currency crisis will re-establish the role of gold as a monetary asset in the global financial system against which other currencies will be valued.

Your petitioners ask that the Senate: (state the action required)

Minimise the risks and impacts that a global currency crisis or similar event would have on our nation by establishing initiatives for the Commonwealth of Australia to:

a) Reinstate gold as a reserve asset for the Australian banking system;
b) Repatriate its gold reserves from London back to Australia to be held on Australian soil; and
c) Begin an ongoing program of accumulating gold reserves, considering the efficiency of collecting taxes payable from precious metal mining companies in the refined metals they extract as a means of continually adding to those reserves.

Name Email Address
(To be collected by electronic petition)
 
Gino said:
After some further reflection a few other changes have resulted that make the whole thing much more concise and meaningful. Without any further input this is the best I can do and at this stage am happy with it. I have sought some external comment.

Like it! One silver and one golden thumb up. :)
 
Does it have to be shipped back to Australia? There are a lot of boating accidents concerning precious metals.

Could it be transfered to the Australian embassy instead?
 
80 Puny Tons of Gold Reserve attributed to the World's largest exporter. So repatriate & give every Aussie a 10th of a ozt. That's about all you get according to my crappy math. Instead of multinat-corps just digging it up, piling it on a private jet & selling it to the Swiss we need to start stacking as a nation. Just like China is doing right now. Restrict a percentage of annual production royalty free to encourage the local reserve & then we will be getting somewhere.
 
Dynoman said:
80 Puny Tons of Gold Reserve attributed to the World's largest exporter. So repatriate & give every Aussie a 10th of a ozt. That's about all you get according to my crappy math. Instead of multinat-corps just digging it up, piling it on a private jet & selling it to the Swiss we need to start stacking as a nation. Just like China is doing right now. Restrict a percentage of annual production royalty free to encourage the local reserve & then we will be getting somewhere.

Yeah, it's not much when you divide it up between 30 million of us.. makes me wonder.
 
Jislizard said:
Does it have to be shipped back to Australia? There are a lot of boating accidents concerning precious metals.

Could it be transfered to the Australian embassy instead?


Put anything Australian inside an embassy that the Brits want to get their hands on and they'll put a ring of cops around the place to stop it getting out again.



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