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yennus said:
Is there any cheap stuff (e.g. Whisky, Scotch, etc) that I can buy in bulk (e.g 50 bottles of whatever), leave it in a cave for 30-40years, and have it appreciate in value (at least more than inflation) ?

If you knew what you were doing you could try your hand at aging some spirits in a barrel. For the most part though, smaller barrels age things more aggressively so it would need to be checked with much more frequency to see how it is developing. There is a whole host of problems associated with this, plus good barrels are expensive. Also, not sure if the masses would be interested in Johnnie Red by yennus branded scotch.
 
House said:
Ps, if anyone knows where Aberlour 10 is in stock please PM me.

I went looking at my local whiskey specialist...this is sold out. What's special about this age compared to the Aberlour 12 and 16 year.

In regards to whiskey more generally a colleague has bought up all the Johnny Walker Green Label he can find, even from online branches of overseas duty free shops. This has a real following but Diageo/Walker has stopped production and he reckons bottles of it will appreciate as the fans expend the bottles in their collections. Time will tell on this one. I have an open bottle of this, kind of wish I hadn't opened it.

If anyone is going to explore Scotch whiskeys as an investment, make sure they are single malt whiskeys. Johnnie Walker Green is the only single malt of that brand, the rest are blended whiskeys.

Blended whiskey is a more modern creation using general grains in machines the size of aircraft hangars pumping out megalitres of white spitit per day - which are then flavoured and coloured by small amounts of single malts blended in, hence the name.

Single Malt only uses barley as its' grain and uses the longer production method people are somewhat familiar with. It is always limited in how much can be produced.
 
AngloSaxon said:
House said:
Ps, if anyone knows where Aberlour 10 is in stock please PM me.

I went looking at my local whiskey specialist...this is sold out. What's special about this age compared to the Aberlour 12 and 16 year.

In regards to whiskey more generally a colleague has bought up all the Johnny Walker Green Label he can find, even from online branches of overseas duty free shops. This has a real following but Diageo/Walker has stopped production and he reckons bottles of it will appreciate as the fans expend the bottles in their collections. Time will tell on this one. I have an open bottle of this, kind of wish I hadn't opened it.

If anyone is going to explore Scotch whiskeys as an investment, make sure they are single malt whiskeys. Johnnie Walker Green is the only single malt of that brand, the rest are blended whiskeys.

Blended whiskey is a more modern creation using general grains in machines the size of aircraft hangars pumping out megalitres of white spitit per day - which are then flavoured and coloured by small amounts of single malts blended in, hence the name.

Single Malt only uses barley as its' grain and uses the longer production method people are somewhat familiar with. It is always limited in how much can be produced.

JW Green is also blended per this review.

http://www.connosr.com/reviews/john...el-15-year-old/this-is-what-blends-should-be/

Available again in North America for a period of time. http://scotchaddict.com/is-johnnie-walker-green-back-in-production-not-really.html
 
JohnnyCottonmouth said:
This interests me. What is a good single malt that's decently priced now that should improve over time?

Once it is in its glass bottle, nothing will improve with age. Best hope would be to look for limited edition bottles/packaging of the most popular brands. You could do a lot worse than special edition bottles of JW red.
 
robmetal said:
also i chose grey goose and henesy because of the high quality spirit they offer so storing those would give me a piece of mind that they are of quality

You obviously haven't tried Belvedere Vodka, once you do you will realise what a high quality vodka really is. Grey Goose may be top shelf (not to be mistaken for top quality) but compared to Belvedere its like drinking metho.
 
Also on JW green, it is what they call a pure malt. So a traditional blend is a blend of various malts and grains. A single malt is just that. A pure malt is a blend of just malts (no grains), so i guess it falls somewhere between a traditional blend and a single malt. The colour on any of these is due to the barrel.
 
a few people have said meade (honey liquor) will age in time even though its in a glass bottle..
also Chartreuse will age in a glass bottle

is this accurate?
 
Andy said:
The colour on any of these is due to the barrel.
Hardly, they put coffee grounds, tea tannins whatever they want to improve the colour & flavour. The current scourge of the industry is 'Caramel'. They're putting it into everything :(

I've got an 18yr old Talisker that's nearly as clear as tap water.
 
Clawhammer said:
Andy said:
The colour on any of these is due to the barrel.
Hardly, they put coffee grounds, tea tannins whatever they want to improve the colour & flavour. The current scourge of the industry is 'Caramel'. They're putting it into everything :(

I've got an 18yr old Talisker that's nearly as clear as tap water.

Well ideally it should just be the barrel. What I was refuting was the claim that mass blends are coloured with single malts. The age and amount of charring in the barrel should effect colour. The barrel your talisker came from must have been well used. An 18 year old Bourbon would be very dark without any colour additives since they use new and quite charred barrels
 
I tried doing this. Ended up drinking my collection in a fortnight lmao. A better investment in me in regards to alcohol is to never drink it in the first place.
 
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