7-11 illegal wages class action

AustralianAustrian

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If anyone knows someone who works/worked for 7-11 they may be interested in this class action starting. It's being run by the same firm that ran the Storm Financial Class action. It is alleged 7-11 make their profits from only paying their staff for half the hours worked.

http://711classaction.com/
 
col0016 said:
I find it hard to believe that people would accept only getting paid for half of their hours.
Not sure about this 7-11 situation, but previously incidents generally involve exploitation of foreign students.
 
SilverPete said:
col0016 said:
I find it hard to believe that people would accept only getting paid for half of their hours.
Not sure about this 7-11 situation, but previously incidents generally involve exploitation of foreign students.
I'd believe that.
 
SilverPete said:
col0016 said:
I find it hard to believe that people would accept only getting paid for half of their hours.
Not sure about this 7-11 situation, but previously incidents generally involve exploitation of foreign students.

From a libertarian point of view they are not being exploited they are just being paid and treated in accordance with the market.
 
Newtosilver said:
SilverPete said:
col0016 said:
I find it hard to believe that people would accept only getting paid for half of their hours.
Not sure about this 7-11 situation, but previously incidents generally involve exploitation of foreign students.

From a libertarian point of view they are not being exploited they are just being paid and treated in accordance with the market.
A libertarian would say that if they had agreed to work for the wage then there is no problem with it. The government however doesn't care if people are willing to work for less than they deem fit, think of them like toddlers who have to have their own way.
 
smk762 said:
So the market promotes exploitation?
My Japanese housemate is studying at uni here and works for $10 an hour (plus some food etc) at a Japanese restaurant. Obviously he would prefer to be paid more, but nobody is forcing him to work there and he enjoys it. Is he being exploited?
 
Are we talking about a particular type of libertarianism here? Libetarian anarcho-capitalism? Libertarian socialism? Libertarian minarchism?
 
If he doesn't feel exploited, he's not. If he was taking part in a class action, I'd assume he was.
As a student, ready access to food is a plus. I remember days working fresh produce for minimum wage at two separate jobs.

At one, my pay was docked when there was a power outage because we couldn't work, and I quit on the spot. The attitude of the owner/manager was demeaning and he never had anything positive to say, and his extended family ran the joint like a tribe of despots. We had arguments over standards of quality control where I was threatened with docked pay for disposing of rotten fruit. It was an oppressive, exploitative environment.

At the next, I was paid at the same rate. The section manager gave me a coffee chill after every bi-weekly unloading of new stock delivery. I was never pressured into feeling guilty that study took priority over work. I was a "token Aussie" among a workforce that was 50% indian, 20% Pakistani, 10% Iranian, 10% European and 10% Asian. They worked hard and lived 10 to a house, but everyone was friendly. It was impossible to feel exploited with respect to their work ethic, and ironically I felt like part of the family.

At both I was vaguely aware of "cash under the table" on public holidays for some family members / internationals, I'd assume as a way to get around visa limits or dodge tax. Many minimum wage workers don't care if they are paid less, but it's tax free and it's the same in the hand at the end of the day.

I'm not sure what category your mate falls into, but if he's sufficiently fed, financed and his work environment is pleasant, I doubt he feels exploited. Cash is only part of the equation.
 
Newtosilver said:
SilverPete said:
col0016 said:
I find it hard to believe that people would accept only getting paid for half of their hours.
Not sure about this 7-11 situation, but previously incidents generally involve exploitation of foreign students.

From a libertarian point of view they are not being exploited they are just being paid and treated in accordance with the market.
Exactly. (However this isn't just a "libertarian" point of view it is the basic position of most mainstream economics and all free market oolitical ideologies.)
 
If they have only been paid for half the hours that they have been promised then most people (the market) would consider that fraud.
 
bordsilver said:
Newtosilver said:
SilverPete said:
Not sure about this 7-11 situation, but previously incidents generally involve exploitation of foreign students.

From a libertarian point of view they are not being exploited they are just being paid and treated in accordance with the market.
Exactly. (However this isn't just a "libertarian" point of view it is the basic position of most mainstream economics and all free market oolitical ideologies.)


I was being sarcastic :)
 
smk762 said:
How many degrees of separation between a libertarian and a libertine?

For those who didn't know what a libertine was, like me, here is the wikipedia definition.

A libertine is one devoid of most moral restraints, which are seen as unnecessary or undesirable, especially one who ignores or even spurns accepted morals.
 
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