2020 Collapse

There's a couple of different research that the bat virus actually causes lower fatalities and severe illnesses among east asians compared to other ethnicities.

If you look at it, it sounds right, the fatality rate in Japan, Korea, Vietnam is much lower. Even here, where only 70% are east asian origins, our fatality rate is much lower than say Australia with similar healthcare system.

So far, I've relatives from both sides that got infected, and it's very light. Yes, they were vaccinated but those vaccinated, it's like almost nothing, just fever 1 or 2 days and ok. It's not some crazy deadly illness that we read in the UK and US news killing thousands of people everyday. It's like flu here. That's why I question why do we need to take booster and why kids even need to take the jabs.

Yes, I've to mentioned, they are in their 50s, 60s and 70s.

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/ancient-coronavirus-epidemic-east-asia-dna-covid
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8542831/
https://scroll.in/latest/1009865/co...ns-may-double-risk-of-death-says-oxford-study


TreasureHunter said:
Austria makes Covid vaccines mandatory
"The country’s parliament has made vaccination compulsory for all citizens, with those who resist facing fines of up to 3,600 euros ($4,000)"

https://www.rt.com/news/546694-vaccine-mandate-bill-passes/


Now they can even mass-euthanize their population if they wanted. People are not allowed to say "no".
This is where Orwellian-fascism starts.

Hitler was Austrian, remember. Mozart was German.
(but for some reason, people think it's the other way around)
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Stock markets collapsing?

Serious dips can be seen on the charts: Dow Jones, S&P 500 are taking a dip. But perhaps this time it's the major dip.

Cryptos are falling at the same time with the stock markets? A possible scenario.

Plus: according to some chart analysts, gold has a bearish signal on the charts.


Stock market crash, massive crypto market correction, gold bull market starting?
 
Look at the map, if Ukraine falls, Romania is next to go.

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ParanoidAndroid said:
Russia really only wants Crimea.
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This is what the propaganda wants you to believe. The whole ukraine is the ultimate goal. Of course, it will take time to take over the whole country. This time, maybe they will take the capital and half of Ukraine.
 
What the "western colonial powers" (e.g. France, UK, USA, Netherlands, Belgium, Spain... etc.) are actually doing is about "destroying Eurasia" and is the following:
- they are cutting the economic (incl. transportation) lines between Europe and Asia (they are against the Belt & Road, against Russia interconnecting Asia with Europe). because then the western European colonial powers will become
peripheral and poorer, while the East will prosper (through doing more business with China, India, Turkey, Russia etc.)
- they are blocking the Russian-German collaboration: it's a historic thing - Russia and Germany always wanted to connect (massive industry of Germany and massive resources of Russia), so a German-Russian collaboration would again
be a blow to the UK, France, USA... etc.
- they are blocking Russia from selling their cheaper (and more accessible and more abundant resources) to Europe: they want Europeans to buy the more expensive North Sea petrol and gas, instead of buying from Russia, Turkey or Azerbaijan
- they are blocking Central Asia from connecting with Europe (therefore instigating conflicts between, within and with- Kazakhstan, Caucasian countries and regions, Iran)
- they are excluding Turkey from Europe, because (again): if Europe would do business with Turkey, then it would be worse for "the West"
- they are going to maintain and feed the bad relations between the Ukraine and Russia, because this is a major barrier between European and Asian counties (again: destroy the Eurasian economic ambitions)
- Russia and China are establishing northern (arctic) trade routes: shorter and allowing massive quantities of goods to be transported - but then the Netherlands, Mediterranean ports, Germany would have tremendous losses; maintaining the Ukraine conflict will hinder the free flow of goods from Russia to the rest of Europe

The former colonial (and through the EU neo-colonial powers) are losing their ground. And their power is diminishing in a multipolar world.
This is in fact economic warfare. Diabolical.

Pretty much all they can do now is to block everyone else from interconnecting the rest of the world. The EU can't stand its member states doing business with Turkey, China, India, Russia or anyone else. The "core" wants to rule the East. But the game is not working.

We are witnessing the collapse of the west, which is trying to set foothold everywhere.
 
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Russia desires Ukraine as Ukraine as an ally is very valuable, but the Ukrainians will not surrender so easily as the Pashtun Afghans surrender to the Pashtun Talibans. If Russia gets bogged down in Ukraine, the Far East will be undefended. China can take the opportunity reclaim land lost to the white people, Mongolia, Central Asia and the Far East. Just as Ukraine is a future formidable foe to Russia, Russia is also a future formidable foe to China. The only sure way to neutralise a future foe is to conquer it first before it becomes too strong.

Perhaps Biden and Xi are secretly working together? ;)

The idea may not be as far fetched as it seems. Russia is a potential future problem to both the Americans and China.
 
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sgbuyer said:
Russia desires Ukraine as Ukraine as an ally is very valuable, but the Ukrainians will not surrender so easily as the Pashtun Afghans surrender to the Pashtun Talibans. If Russia gets bogged down in Ukraine, the East will be undefended. China can take the opportunity reclaim land lost to the white people, Mongolia, Central Asia and the Far East. Just as Ukraine is a future formidable foe to Russia, Russia is also a future formidable foe to China. The only sure way to neutralise a future foe is to conquer it first.
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So, China considers the entire Mongolia "their own"? I heard that they drool after parts of Siberia, but Mongolia is an entire independent country. China wants to swallow it? Could be another Tibet-type "meal".

The colonial powers are destroying Europe:
- with the north-African (especially Libyan) conflicts they left Europe undefended form the south: massive African migration
- with their poor relations with Turkey (if Turkey weakens), Europe becomes undefended from that direction
- if they ruin Russia - as you say: Europe becomes undefended and UNDEFENDABLE FOR CENTURIES
 
TreasureHunter said:
So, China considers the entire Mongolia "their own"? I heard that they drool after parts of Siberia, but Mongolia is an entire independent country. China wants to swallow it? Could be another Tibet-type "meal".

The colonial powers are destroying Europe:
- with the north-African (especially Libyan) conflicts they left Europe undefended form the south: massive African migration
- with their poor relations with Turkey (if Turkey weakens), Europe becomes undefended from that direction
- if they ruin Russia - as you say: Europe becomes undefended and UNDEFENDABLE FOR CENTURIES
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Look at the last Chinese dynasty map. The "Great Qing" as known in Chinese is 40% larger than modern day PRC.

Yes, China was once an even larger country.

Interestingly, if you look at the lakes, almost the entire Krygystan and a big part of Kazakhstan, including the biggest city, Almaty is under the Great Qing.

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Mongolia wanted to join China, but not for China
There is closure between China and Russia, unlike Japan Russia...never ending claims by Japan on Kurils
 
ParanoidAndroid said:
Russia really only wants Crimea.
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Crimea is Russian, so majority voted to rejoin Russia, eastern parts of Ukraine are Russian people, so they objected to the Maidan overthrown of their president
Ukraine has law that prohibit the speaking of Russian
 
A Chinese mongolian girl from a part of China known as "inner mongolia". She speaks in English, followed by Mongolia (which sounds a bit like Korean to me) and then Mandarin (which is wrongly refers to as Chinese).


A bit of history.

 
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I've seen some youtube of people of Crimea, but I wonder if they will regret when the world changes to renewables in another 15-20 years. It's not a very long period of time but I guess Slavic people don't really think much. For us, we look very far into the future.

While I think that China is going to face many issues in the short to medium term, they will eventually be the superpower by 2060-2070 latest. Possibly even a different political system by then. If Russia can't handle a superpower across the Atlantic, how will they handle a superpower just next door?
 
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Russia has permanent base in Crimea, so their people are unlikely to leave and go to Russian bigger cities, unlike Estonia, where many Russian left, small towns got abandoned ... just small number of people left, its almost empty.

China is and will remain an economic power for century to come, with many advancement in technology and new applications,
Russia must be assertive and say no to all potential threat near her border, this include all possible deployments within her territory
 
sgbuyer said:
Look at the last Chinese dynasty map. The "Great Qing" as known in Chinese is 40% larger than modern day PRC.

Yes, China was once an even larger country.

Interestingly, if you look at the lakes, almost the entire Krygystan and a big part of Kazakhstan, including the biggest city, Almaty is under the Great Qing.

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That map is from 1820, right?


Here's an older map of the Qin Dinasty's empire (BCE 210-220 approx.):

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From what I know, China's history dates back to the Qin Dinasty (this is considered to have been "the first China"). It is believed that "China" comes from "Qin".

But, not even in the middle ages, China was much smaller than today. It did expand several times in history.

Russia is a newer country. China is an ancient country, but there are plenty of other ancient cultures and countries that used to be bigger in the past.

Many historians would claim that Tibet, Xinjiang, Mongolia + Inner Mongolia were territories that China simply "swallowed".
At some point those territories became parts of China, just like parts of Siberia, which became parts of China. But there are countless other peoples, nations living in the area. One can't ignore them, nor their past either.

If China engages into an aggressive expansion in Asia, their situation will become far worse than today and everyone will turn on China: Japan, S. Korea, Russia, India, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, the Philippines, Vietnam...
China is the most isolated great power. And if China engages in expansion, it will end in self-isolation.
 
Yes, the Qing is 17th-19th century.

The Qin is BC and before the Qin dynasty, "China" was made up of different states until all the other states were conquered by the state of Qin.

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The Qin people are themselves previously Steppe people before they became farmers. There's a lot of mixing throughout the centuries in Northern China because different steppe people conquered the northern part of "China" at different times, and became farmers. The Xianbei and Khitans which were Mongolian tribes settled down in northern china, and disappeared. But in actual fact, they didn't disappear, they became Chinese, discarded their ethic names, language and customs, took up Chinese names, so a lot of northern Chinese had Mongolian ancestors from as recent as only a thousand years ago. In fact, even a hundred years ago because a lot of Manchurians, originally steppe people, became Chinese, took up Chinese names and customs and many don't even know the Manchurian language although most still know they were Manchurian unlike the descendants of earlier converts a thousand or two thousand years ago.

After the Qin was the Han dynasty which conquered southern "barbarian" states, the provinces of Zhejiang, Fujian, Guangdong, Cantonese speakers, the economic powerhouse of modern day China. I believe even up to Shanghai was a barbarian state earlier on. It is believed that some of the southern tribes fled to Vietnam, some natives probably remained and became "Chinese". That's why Vietnamese in northern part of Vietnam like Hanoi are often indistinguishable from the Cantonese. There were also big migrations from the north and these people form their own ethnic groups and spoke their own dialect. The hakka and teochew/swatow people in guangdong province were from northern part of China, that's why they look different from cantonese, they look more Mongolian than Indochinese.

In this context, you'll know that the ancestors of the northern Chinese were from the steppe of Mongolia and Siberia, just as the ancestors of the Russians are from Kievan Rus. The Chinese race itself, the majority Han race is a mix of different races. In this respect China isn't much different from the UK.

TreasureHunter said:
That map is from 1820, right?

Here's an older map of the Qin Dinasty's empire (BCE 210-220 approx.):

From what I know, China's history dates back to the Qin Dinasty (this is considered to have been "the first China"). It is believed that "China" comes from "Qin".

But, not even in the middle ages, China was much smaller than today. It did expand several times in history.

Russia is a newer country. China is an ancient country, but there are plenty of other ancient cultures and countries that used to be bigger in the past.

Many historians would claim that Tibet, Xinjiang, Mongolia + Inner Mongolia were territories that China simply "swallowed".
At some point those territories became parts of China, just like parts of Siberia, which became parts of China. But there are countless other peoples, nations living in the area. One can't ignore them, nor their past either.

If China engages into an aggressive expansion in Asia, their situation will become far worse than today and everyone will turn on China: Japan, S. Korea, Russia, India, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, the Philippines, Vietnam...
China is the most isolated great power. And if China engages in expansion, it will end in self-isolation.
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