2020 Collapse

sgbuyer said:
But Mongol isn't Han.
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any empire is the same, when they have the opportunity, they expand
why Tangs need to be treated any differently is beyond me
but Ilmu Akhir Zaman is very interesting compared to the past, the Afghan case, and Crimea much more ahead of us
how the turn of events so swifly done. only in Qur an they have this explanations
 
mmm....shiney! said:
Yet you are aware? o_O

This is what I'm getting at in the China thread. Apart from the odd aberration, Western nations had their enlightenment a few centuries ago. Those nations that cling to values that date back before the Enlightenment, eg those that have their legal basis in things apart from common/civil law must go through their enlightenment if the citizens of those nations are to be free to be truly human.

Take Japan, put simply, it was the defeat in WW2 that made the Japanese realise that their Emperor wasn't a god. Centuries of feudal law had finally run its course and failed. Some 300 years after it failed in Europe. That's a lot of Japanese generations being forced to live under a demonic political system.

Nations that have a rule of law based upon religion are long overdue for a reformation.
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I couldn't agree more, however the basic problem is that KILL THE APOSTATE is underlined in red, and is the first lesson in Fanatic 101, which somewhat cuts short discussion, before cutting short the apostate in question.

I don't know any solution to this, other than hope for the benevolence and inclusivenes and the other bright spots of instruction, versus the "conversion by the sword" branches. Even the "it's all about peace and love" branches must abide by the decree on not suffering apostates and not even raise a "what if" question, since the word of the prophet is it. Full stop.
 
to bring the swords we see wars and cut all the time, peace is just 2 short years during the US 200 odd years of empire time
to put in simple term, the truth would set you free
going through awakening just too familiar with many dramas, the light bearer is surely a beautiful one, but also the evil one
they call it the great satan
can satan change for the better? nope, the messiah will kill him with a sword
why did the evil one still run and trying to avoid his faith, in the end he is no more
all have their roles to play and in the end it will come to the end
 
pockets of resistance, must be the alliance
there are many factions over there
with the leftover weapons, it is handy to terminate the whole are
drones too
 
Why does China seek to link Iran to its New Silk Road? RT’s Keiser Report finds out https://on.rt.com/bf6k
It is of strategic importance to China. A new oil terminal outside of the Persian Gulf will be built so that tankers do not need to travel through the Hormuz Straits. A pipeline via Afghanistan will eliminate the need for tankers. China cannot trust Saudi Arabia for its energy supplies. Instead of an imperial outpost, there is now an Islamic block, stretching from Pakistan, never happy about its northern regions being used as a US bombing range, up to the former Soviet regions and across to Iran. Russia is taking a leading role in the recognition of the Taliban, as Afghanistan is as strategic as ever. The Iranians have 10% of the world’s oil reserves. They have an oil pipeline to Kerman and a gas pipeline to the border with Turkmenistan. When these reach China the petro-dollar is dead.
 
alor said:
When these reach China the petro-dollar is dead.
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The Petro-dollar is the USD.

The USD will not die, and China certainly won't be doing anything to crush the USD. Which is unfortunate, because if they did, then that would be the downfall of the CPC.
 
mmm....shiney! said:
The Petro-dollar is the USD.

The USD will not die, and China certainly won't be doing anything to crush the USD. Which is unfortunate, because if they did, then that would be the downfall of the CPC.
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the comment sections is good, yeah oil does not need to be transacted in USD, no one can force Iran and China to trade their oil in USD. Its not happening.
When the top producers and consumers are not trading them in USD, they are just not. No any other way to force that will, they are not Saudi.
 
Afghanistan going into civil war, worst than Syria.

Thousands of al qaeda, isis and various terrorists freed!

 
mmm....shiney! said:
So you're trying to argue that the US will abandon trading with USD?

Right. :rolleyes:
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NO
the USD is no longer in 100% use when trading oil
so with the pipeline, all those oil are not going to be traded in USD
when most are not traded in USD, there is no need to keep 45% of reserves in USD
when lesser of reserved are not in USD, there will not be the USD recycle
we have fed buying the USD bonds to prevent no bid all the time
it is still a major currency, but there are alternatives
no longer IRAQ, when Saddam tried to sell oil in Euro, he got hanged
When Saudi import from China, they have to use Yuan, they cannot force the Chinese to accept USD,
When Russia keep getting sanctions by US, they tried to diversify to avoid the cumbersome USD
the more US use force, the more nations avoid using them. just like Venezuela, they would be stupid to use USD, just to get their USD confiscated!
No one in the right mind would be so stupid, Afghan just got their reserved frozen, will they use USD again? hell no. they will not use a system that is not in their control, when they have many choices.
 
alor said:
they cannot force the Chinese to accept USD
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You must've missed the bit above where I said the Chinese don't want to trash the USD, unfortunately. Because it would be the end of the CPC. I wonder what the Chinese are going to do with all of their USD? Most likely just keep it. They need it to balance their books.

But go ahead, just keep repeating the demise of the USD story if it makes you feel better.
 
EU more worried about Russia & China gaining from Western defeat in Afghanistan than future of country, Moscow’s FM Lavrov says https://www.rt.com/russia/532928-eu-afghanistan-influence-importance/

Speaking at a press conference following talks with his Hungarian counterpart, Sergey Lavrov said it was regrettable that the bloc’s officials weren’t as preoccupied with the humanitarian situation in the country. The top diplomat turned fire on Brussels’ foreign policy chief, Josep Borrell, who claimed last week that “what we cannot do is let the Chinese and Russians take control of the situation and be supporters of Kabul, and we become irrelevant.”

The comments came as a group of senior EU parliamentarians co-signed a statement declaring that they “deeply deplore the recent political, military, and moral calamity in Afghanistan.” According to them, the bloc must now urgently develop a new strategy for the region “considering that Russia and China will quickly try to fill the political vacuum.”
 
sgbuyer said:
Afghanistan going into civil war, worst than Syria.

Thousands of al qaeda, isis and various terrorists freed!

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This is worse than it was 20-21 years ago.

And, now they estimate 0.5-1 million will set off towards the EU. Turkey is already building a concrete fence, Greece just made a vertical steel fence.

What I find weird is that somehow they still have to go through Iran. I am surprised how they just let everyone go through.
 
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