2020 Collapse

Ipv6Ready said:
Even Putin won't order an intentional Nuclear first strike in Kiev, but even if Putin did it is debatable if France, UK or US will retaliate with Nuclear strike.

If France, UK or US (UK under Boris is not a factor) did retaliate with a nuclear strike what will they Bomb Moscow or Russian forces in Ukraine....

Doubt any EU nations will send troops as long as Russian are fighting inside Ukraine and don't advance.

The only direct way this war escalate into something serious is if Gas pipes in Ukraine is shut off by Russia or it is blown up by accident or sabotaged.

Imagine the spike in Gold Spot price if Russia demanded payment in physical gold :)
Please dont go on about contracts lol, any contracts are null and void once sanctions was put on Russia!

Even an accidental nuclear accident in one of the 4 nuclear power station won't be as bad a shock to gas stopping to flow to EU.

EU gas reserves are low and silly as it seems 11% of total "EU Reserve" is owned by Gazprom, and its empty, 30% is in retail and industrial users tanks ie retail gas stations, power stations and steel works and is an estimate not really a reserve and only 2x% is dedicated "strategic storage"

Gas stopping to flow in one or more Russian pipes through Ukraine will result in rolling power outage within weeks in different parts of EU.

EU resserve is aggregate is in name only. German reserve is for Germany and Italian reserve is for Italy.

Did you know Italy is 100% reliant on Russian Gas?
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what shit is these?
 
When we see the most healthy athletes and children dropping dead with unexplained heart issues there is something very very wrong.
Maybe it affects them first because they are the most active physically and it will take the older people and fatties longer because they dont stress their hearts as much.
The seizures, shaking and muscle twitches seem to be about the same throughout the age groups and the amputations are just random.
My wifes vaxxed aunt is in hosptial with a stroke right now with many clots and brain bleeding and another guy back home died from "complications due to covid" and his funeral was today. Not sure if he was vaxxed but i would guess he was like most.
 
There was only 393 fully triple vaxxed olympic athletes that tested positive for covid, but its only a breakthrough case dont worry.
It never really happens they say, so rare.
 
Ukraine is a Russian problem. The fate of Ukraine is tied to Russia. If Ukraine is destroyed, Russia will breakup. Russia destroying Ukraine is in actual fact destroying itself.

Probably the only thing that Putin is right. The soul of Russia is in Kyiv. :D
 
sgbuyer said:
Inflation is good when you have lots of debt. That's how you inflate away debt. :p
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But your salary also inflates and the rates of credits keep growing. The bad thing is (I hear) that in the EU the credit rates are increasing. They use indexes and rates to calculate how much a person has to pay each month to (eventually) pay off their apartment. And: these indexes and rates are increasing. So they actually have to pay more, while the remaining amount of their salary is barely enough to buy food and pay utilities.

Europe is becoming poorer a lot faster than expected.

The pandemic and the "wrecked financial system" weren't enough, Putin added another pile of crap on top with his shovel.
 
Ipv6Ready said:
Only 50 nukes will turn Ukraine into a radioactive heap

Once about 50 combined Russian, UK, USA and French nukes dropped on Ukraine, Russia and West can decide a "Ukraine as Hot Zone is a decent buffer" and back off without to much angst.

Unlikely Boris the Clown from UK is even allowed to fire the retaliatory strike and bomb Moscow as a retaliation to a Russian strike in Ukraine?

Will yapping Macron from France order a nuke strike and bomb Moscow as a retaliation ot Russian strike in Ukraine, as if?

Senile Biden from America won't know how to fire the retaliatory strike and bomb Moscow as a retaliation of Russian strike in Ukraine? If Biden had a lucid moment he will be told don't be stupid.

Note: 50 Nukes dropped on Ukraine wont be but a blip in history if it happens to anyone but people living around it.
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If either side is mad enough, then we will slide down the slippery slope to nuclear war. Hopefully they aren't really that stupid.

Putin is very a aggressive terminator, Biden is senile, Kamala is a dumb street whore who tells pre-learned sentences, Boris is an irresponsible clown with limited thinking, Macron is an immature adolescent who married his grandmother, the German chancellor is a wild socialist that hates traditional values...

We are blessed with mad and stupid people. In the 1990's at least there were POLITICIANS. Most of today's politicians don't quality as normal people.
 
BMW, Mercedes have announced that they are "withdrawing" from the Russian market. They will still have to sell their cars and car parts somewhere and the demand (overall in the world) is much lower anyway, so they are kind-of self-sabotaging.

It is amazing how the EU is capable of committing economic-suicide.
 
TreasureHunter said:
BMW, Mercedes have announced that they are "withdrawing" from the Russian market. They will still have to sell their cars and car parts somewhere and the demand (overall in the world) is much lower anyway, so they are kind-of self-sabotaging.

It is amazing how the EU is capable of committing economic-suicide.
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Kind of noble really taking a moral stance.

They won't have trouble making up the shortfall in sales. Yuppies love Beemers and Mercs.
 
mmm....shiney! said:
Kind of noble really taking a moral stance.

They won't have trouble making up the shortfall in sales. Yuppies love Beemers and Mercs.
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The Russians will be able to produce parts, they are notorious for reverse-engineering ANYTHING. Just like China, which copied the UH-60 Blackhawk.
No hyper skills are required for car parts.

Russia was a huge market for the Germans. But perhaps now they find a new way to produce more and cheaper BMW's and Mercedeses :D
 
What is plain to see is that Russian Armed forces was the best kept secret of 21st century it is a biggest joke.

Any mystical ability given to latest Russian assets be it missiles, tank, artilley or planes can be corrected to state no actual advances can be seen from studying thousands of hour high quality video footage. It is now easy and correct to say that latest Russian Milliatry tech is just about the standard of badly refined 1980s assets.

Afghan Army have better tech, left by American forces...

If Putin didnt have nuclear missiles Poland could walk in and help Ukraine kick out Russians easily.

And have picnics along the way to taking Moscow
 
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Caught up with my Russian friend tonight for a download. Basically, no free thinker in Russia supports or understands what’s going on. The propaganda is out of control insane and the threats against anyone even calling it a war is excessive. If you are in Russia the offical narrative is that this is considered a ‘special operation’ sparked by nato aggression. Anyone suggesting otherwise risks ‘disappearing’.

I guess the main takeaway from that is the obvious - Putin has not won the hearts or the minds of the Russian people.
 
heartastack said:
Caught up with my Russian friend tonight for a download. Basically, no free thinker in Russia supports or understands what’s going on. The propaganda is out of control insane and the threats against anyone even calling it a war is excessive. If you are in Russia the offical narrative is that this is considered a ‘special operation’ sparked by nato aggression. Anyone suggesting otherwise risks ‘disappearing’.

I guess the main takeaway from that is the obvious - Putin has not won the hearts or the minds of the Russian people.
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Hope your friend has got out of Russia. The situation there can easily go out of control. Putin is fighting with ghosts.
 
It's mostly about gold and silver and stocks despite the title. I share similar thoughts to him on the subject of enslavement although the way he puts it across is very tactful. The spoils of war since ancient times is the same.

 
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Ipv6Ready said:
What is plain to see is that Russian Armed forces was the best kept secret of 21st century it is a biggest joke.

Any mystical ability given to latest Russian assets be it missiles, tank, artilley or planes can be corrected to state no actual advances can be seen from studying thousands of hour high quality video footage. It is now easy and correct to say that latest Russian Milliatry tech is just about the standard of badly refined 1980s assets.

Afghan Army have better tech, left by American forces...

If Putin didnt have nuclear missiles Poland could walk in and help Ukraine kick out Russians easily.

And have picnics along the way to taking Moscow
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Nevertheless, it was surprising to me as well to see what rusty old tanks the Ruskies have. They rely on those wrecks to invade Ukraine. Seems like the shape of their military is way worse than what we see showed off on parades.

Russia is far below NATO level (technically) or, they are keeping their modern equipment on the mainland to protect Russia? Or they just don't have enough of it or, they don't want to risk them being blown up, because that would be terrible PR and demoralizing for the military. Who knows, we will never know, perhaps.

It is mad how the west keeps pushing for war, instead for pushing for a peace deal. They are heartless and cynical and will keep pushing for war until many more thousands will die.

This is not necessary. But for "geopolitical chess" played by the EU-US conglomerate, they are going to wait until many many people die, so that they can blame it on Russia. Then they will find a "reason" or pretext to exploit Ukraine push even more sanctions against Russia.

Instead, they could stop the aggression and push Putin to dialogue and save many many lives and, save Ukraine from destruction.

Russia's brutal attacks are going to transform Ukraine into Syria. And the west could stop this with political-economic measures/pressures.

Instead, the west is counting on the war to continue, because it erodes the Russian economy, they will have more "reasons" to blame Russia and surround it with more bases, plus the refugees from Ukraine are valuable and cheap work force.

I am sorry for all victims of the war, regardless of their nationality/origin. This entire war is very stupid and must end.

Meanwhile, the EU's economy is going down the drain...
 
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