2013 Fiji 10$ Predatory Mammals Lutra- Antique Finish+Swarovski cryst

I think its rather interesting that your STATED location is the US, yet you conveniently paste European and Polish links in most posts...

Whats the agenda there? :/
 
RhythmDoctor said:
I think its rather interesting that your STATED location is the US, yet you conveniently paste European and Polish links in most posts...

Whats the agenda there? :/
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ok I was born in Poland, and since 2004 I am living in NYC.
In 2010 I started looking for some investment, and then I find out about silver.
My fist silver purchase was kilo bars and 10z , but that wasn't enough.
I bought some bullion coins and I started my Youtube channel

www.youtube.com/user/Silvercoinsshow

I am thinking it is good idea to share nice coins with others.

Daily I spend 1-2 hours for searching and reading about coins. These links that I posted are polish because I could not find these coins anywhere else.

That's my agenda! :cool:


Do you think it would be interesting as well If I would " conveniently paste" Canadian or Australian links? :| or is just because these links are Polish?

BTW How do you like this coin. I ordered two of these coins and I should receive them in February 2013
I will keep you update.
 
You really don't get it
Do you :rolleyes:
With the type of coins your asking about
ITS ALL SPECULATIVE !
I wouldn't want to own any of them ;)
You want to spend your $ on premium coins ,try something with real numismatic value
Not those you have been asking about ;)
I still believe your trying to build up the hype on these type of coins :rolleyes:
Have you ever tried to sell one of those coins ?
 
Seems fair enough to me. Not sure what the big deal is if someone wants to only post links from certain countries here. In plenty of cases the US distributors don't supply certain coins and the only place to get them is through Europe.

That being said I kinda like this coin, I'll check to see if it's available through any Australian distributors though ;)
 
xrayspecs said:
Seems fair enough to me. Not sure what the big deal is if someone wants to only post links from certain countries here. In plenty of cases the US distributors don't supply certain coins and the only place to get them is through Europe.

That being said I kinda like this coin, I'll check to see if it's available through any Australian distributors though ;)
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Downies ;)
Sell that type of crap
 
Don't get me wrong - the issue isn't with foreign links - I just find it suspicious when someone registers as a US member, then posts links from non-english speaking countries...

Pardon my suspicion - but were all switched on to scammers. Apologies for appearing to tar you with that brush!!! :D
 
spannermonkey said:
You really don't get it
Do you :rolleyes:
With the type of coins your asking about
ITS ALL SPECULATIVE !
I wouldn't want to own any of them ;)
You want to spend your $ on premium coins ,try something with real numismatic value
Not those you have been asking about ;)
I still believe your trying to build up the hype on these type of coins :rolleyes:
Have you ever tried to sell one of those coins ?
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You really don't get it
Do you :rolleyes:
I don't think I waste my money... I wasted money when I smoked two packs of cigarettes and that was $6500/year.
So when I spend $200+ for a coin I do that with smile.

"I still believe your trying to build up the hype on these type of coins"
Seriously? I posted first time this type of coin, with question what do you think. I know now, it is not worth this money. Will I buy this coin ? :cool: You will never know.

"Have you ever tried to sell one of those coins ?"
I sold Black Dragon Berlin with $50 left in my pocket after all ebay and paypal fees.
I have two 2012 LONG EARED HEDGEHOG which I bought for $260 each and I dont think I will have problem with sell it.

Don't worry be happy :)
 
spannermonkey said:
xrayspecs said:
Seems fair enough to me. Not sure what the big deal is if someone wants to only post links from certain countries here. In plenty of cases the US distributors don't supply certain coins and the only place to get them is through Europe.

That being said I kinda like this coin, I'll check to see if it's available through any Australian distributors though ;)
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Downies ;)
Sell that type of crap
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and POWERCOINS ;)
Sell that type of coins*
 
SILVERCOINSSHOW said:
spannermonkey said:
xrayspecs said:
Seems fair enough to me. Not sure what the big deal is if someone wants to only post links from certain countries here. In plenty of cases the US distributors don't supply certain coins and the only place to get them is through Europe.

That being said I kinda like this coin, I'll check to see if it's available through any Australian distributors though ;)
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Downies ;)
Sell that type of crap
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and POWERCOINS ;)
Sell that type of coins*
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:rolleyes:

all yours all of them
 
POWERCOIN.IT sells the type of silver Peter Schiff spends all day warning againest.... i am with him 100%... if you tell your MUMMA you invest in silver so will not easily be able to work to stay clear of this... its basically a NEWB TRAP

The more of this overpriced JUNK the harder it is for us to bring the silver cartel down, For every POWERCOIN .IT coin you buy there are a few ounces of PURE SILVER you could of taken possession of, instead the mint gets PHAT profit, also POWERCOIN and the end user gets a pathetic amount of silver .. and COMEX is still peddling millions of ounces of paper...

IE: oppertunity cost.. you forgo actual ounces to collect these - id defo be buying GOLD instead of these and i didnt have any room left for SILVER and i needed to park a bunch of money.

We need to use our money to buy silver... not a lotto ticket for a 1 chance in a 1000 that one of these coins will appreciate from its already overpriced price tag.

If we all stopped buying Modern Numi silver at 3x spot Silver would ironically probably be double where it is? On an agregate level we really want you to be buying silver.. not a coin with a little silver in it..

Do you work for JP Morgan trying to get Silver Stakers... Coin Collecting so they never get caught short as we waste our money before Silver runs out!

Very cunning, are you secretly stacking 999 low premium bars and telling us to buy this JUNK???? ultra wise.

Spend all your money on this... Bullion is for muppets!

1for1
 
1for1 said:
POWERCOIN.IT sells the type of silver Peter Schiff spends all day warning againest.... i am with him 100%... if you tell your MUMMA you invest in silver so will not easily be able to work to stay clear of this... its basically a NEWB TRAP

The more of this overpriced JUNK the harder it is for us to bring the silver cartel down, For every POWERCOIN .IT coin you buy there are a few ounces of PURE SILVER you could of taken possession of, instead the mint gets PHAT profit, also POWERCOIN and the end user gets a pathetic amount of silver .. and COMEX is still peddling millions of ounces of paper...

IE: oppertunity cost.. you forgo actual ounces to collect these - id defo be buying GOLD instead of these and i didnt have any room left for SILVER and i needed to park a bunch of money.

We need to use our money to buy silver... not a lotto ticket for a 1 chance in a 1000 that one of these coins will appreciate from its already overpriced price tag.

If we all stopped buying Modern Numi silver at 3x spot Silver would ironically probably be double where it is? On an agregate level we really want you to be buying silver.. not a coin with a little silver in it..

Do you work for JP Morgan trying to get Silver Stakers... Coin Collecting so they never get caught short as we waste our money before Silver runs out!

Very cunning, are you secretly stacking 999 low premium bars and telling us to buy this JUNK???? ultra wise.

Spend all your money on this... Bullion is for muppets!

1for1
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+1 & well put thanks :)
 
1for1 said:
POWERCOIN.IT sells the type of silver Peter Schiff spends all day warning againest.... i am with him 100%... if you tell your MUMMA you invest in silver so will not easily be able to work to stay clear of this... its basically a NEWB TRAP

The more of this overpriced JUNK the harder it is for us to bring the silver cartel down, For every POWERCOIN .IT coin you buy there are a few ounces of PURE SILVER you could of taken possession of, instead the mint gets PHAT profit, also POWERCOIN and the end user gets a pathetic amount of silver .. and COMEX is still peddling millions of ounces of paper...

IE: oppertunity cost.. you forgo actual ounces to collect these - id defo be buying GOLD instead of these and i didnt have any room left for SILVER and i needed to park a bunch of money.

We need to use our money to buy silver... not a lotto ticket for a 1 chance in a 1000 that one of these coins will appreciate from its already overpriced price tag.

If we all stopped buying Modern Numi silver at 3x spot Silver would ironically probably be double where it is? On an agregate level we really want you to be buying silver.. not a coin with a little silver in it..

Do you work for JP Morgan trying to get Silver Stakers... Coin Collecting so they never get caught short as we waste our money before Silver runs out!

Very cunning, are you secretly stacking 999 low premium bars and telling us to buy this JUNK???? ultra wise.

Spend all your money on this... Bullion is for muppets!

1for1
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I am really sorry that I upset you.
Regarding your question about JP Morgan ... I don't work for them,but if I would do work for them.. You must be agree with me on this... I would not waste my time to response to little man comment.


I like Peter Schiff too, he is good man.Very down to earth person. I met him and his lovely wife twice. Do you really know him with a net worth of $70 million?:o I don't think so;)
 
This is my opinion: collecting Modern coins is risky cause you pay a big premium (compared to silver content) but they can increase in price also in such big and fast way that a pure silver bullion or bar stacker can only dream about.
Often the price increase is temporary, but rarely a nice modern coin would fall to basic silver price.

Other times the coin is so appreciated in the market that I if I believe a coin has a potential I buy two identical coins, I sell second one at right time (when price becomes double whay I spent, so I recover the full amount I paid for both), so I keep one in hand for free.

I heard a story of one investor that bought years ago 100 "Mongolia Gulo Gulo" pieces even before the coin won the COTY. Was completely unpredictable what the price would have become after few years, but he sold them all few months ago in the price range $2500-$3500 (we are talking about 1 oz silver!) and this summer he bought a new apartment paying it at once, and rent his old smaller one getting a lifetime revenue.

Now, call it crap, say that modern coin collecting is only for speculators etc. I can agree with all you say, but..... I really would like to be so wise, or lucky, like the one of the story above.

Alex.
 
I'm sure lots of members of this forum likes coins with larger premiums over spot and that many of them have made a bigger profit compared to those who only buy eagles, maples etc.

If you do enough research about trends etc then you are bound to find some coins that are no-brainers.

I buy some coins from newer series etc because their fan-base might still be small and thus have lower mintage numbers and bigger potential for the future. Especially with coins that change design every year.
 
The probable value retention and future liquidity of all those fancy coins with the 87-color paint job decals and the "Swarovski crystal" (i.e: glass chip) eyes and whatnots are definitely major considerations, as adequately discussed above, but...

I think the biggest potential problem with those glass chip-embedded fancy "coins" of all hasn't even been mentioned yet. Those "crystals" are ultra high-class, high-quality, high-priced leaded cut glass, but just the bottom line is they're just glass. I hope they're strong glass---hopefully with some kind of fracture-resisting agent included in the formulation and hopefully coated with some kind of fracture-resisting coating, but... back to that unavoidable bottom line... they're still just glass. Period. Nothing can change that. Glass is easily shattered, cracked and broken and I'm sure those fancy "crystals" are NOT invulnerable to breakage. I'm still waiting for bullet-proof, glowing green Kryptonite crystals.

[joke]If anybody out there has one of those coins and preschool kids, let the kids play with the coin for a couple days and let's see how the crystals stand up to a quick dose of the real world.[joke]

Now, for the BIG questions about those fancy coins with those fancy crystals... What happens to the formerly high value of your fancy coin with the fancy embedded crystals when one (or more) of those fancy little glass chips gets cracked or broken? What if the glue fails and the glass chip falls out of the coin and disappears? Do you send it back to the NZ Mint, Perth Mint or Poland Mint to get a replacement glass chip installed? I doubt they're going to have a Fancy Coin Service, Repair and Maintenance Department waiting to do this work for you (for a reasonable price, too, ha,ha!).

I suspect when one of those fancy glass chips breaks or goes MIA on you, the value of your formerly fancy coin just died an ugly death along with the broken or missing fancy glass chip and that the odds of your bringing the value back from beyond the grave are squat.

So---for me, the drill is no fancy coins with glass chips, thank you. The cost of those things is a nightmare and the possible loss of value through damage is a worse nightmare. When I see those silly coins, all I see is glitzy, glittery, pure Home Shopping Network consumer crap.

End of rant.
 
Just one doubt:for what reason the crystals on the coins should break? These are coins held in their air-tight capsule, and usually capsule is stored into its coin box. And the box is safely stored as well.
Unless someone start making necklaces, keyrings pendant or something like that, I don't see any reason why they should break.
Alex.
 
You are 100% right, as far as you took the consideration, but... The fact is that things that shouldn't happen (in a perfect world) like automobile collisions, motorcycle collisions and crashes, airplane crashes, etc do in fact happen. They're called accidents. In addition to those unhappy things, we also have design flaws---both natural and man-made. People die of strokes caused by aneurisms (a natural design flaw). If memory serves me, I think I recall the Ford Pinto model having a gas tank design flaw that led to a possible fire hazard (not sure how that one worked out in the end). Toyota had some design flaw problems a little while ago. Everybody's favorite cigarettes from many years ago turned out to be cancer-causing killers. Oops! That anti-obesity drug Fen-Phen turned out to be a major potentially fatal heart problem-causing killer. Oops! The list isn't a short one, it's not limited to motor vehicles and drugs and it does go on and on.

My points are:
1. Accidents can and do happen and there is no guarantee the crystals in some fancy coin will never be accidentally damaged.
2. Design flaws can and do happen just as surely as accidents do and there is no lifetime 100% parts and labor unconditional guarantee on the crystals in those fancy coins.
3. Ditto on the glue that holds the crystals to the coin. Who can say that in 13 years it won't turn out that glue has a 9-year effective life-span?

Overall, those coins are both too costly and just too potentially damageable for my tastes. Careful or not, air-tite capsule or not, "sh*t happens."

If I ever just have to spend long bucks on a single coin, I'll go for a 1oz or 5oz gold or platinum piece. They're a lot less damageable than little glued-on glass chips.

BUT... all of this jabbering is just my spin on those things. We're all big boys and girls and we all can make our own choices and buy whatever we want and can (or can't) afford.

SO---as always, "to each his own." Buy whatever you like and "Merry Shopping To All and to all a good night!" Ho, ho, ho!
 
I could also buy 1oz or 5oz gold or platinum piece but.... what if a meteorite falls on earth, break the vaults where I store those valuable coins, and melt them? Anything can happen ;)

There is a difference:
If I buy the right coin at the right time made of 1 oz silver with some fancy swarovsky crystals, I have the chance to pay it $100 and maybe (even if difficult) to sell it at right time for $1000-$2000. Does Gulo Gulo or Ural Owl coin ring any bell?
If those coins will break while in my hands, I lose only my initial investment ($100), for example.

If I buy a $2000 gold coin and by a mistake it falls in my toilet or my dog eats it, I lose much more.
Just doing stupid example just to say that anything can happen, but there is more possibility that some thief breaks into my house and steal my coins, rather than I wake up one morning, check my coins, and see all those crystals broken for no reason :)

Alex.
 
Personally, I buy some of these coins because I like the design. I don't think I've ever bought a coin "because" it has crystals, but some of the coins I buy do have these crystals or other enhancements. I have no intention of selling them and I keep them in capsules so, should the glue fail and the crystal drops off then it's still in the capsule and I can reattach it. I buy these coins because I like the look of them, not because I think I can make money off them down the track. I'm a collector, NOT a stacker, and like collectors in any field the main draw is the product, not the profit it could net me somewhere down the track. That should be no one's concern but mine. If people don't want to buy these coins then that's their prerogative, I don't really understand why people who aren't interested in these things tend to be the ones who go on about them so much haha ;)
 
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