Hi JC888... I was hopeing you might chime in , I was joking about stealing the picture and I was actually referring to the ccf , what I was a little dissapointed about was taking the picture and the big discussion about it without even one reply to my question here except Catseye sending me the link to the CCF, it could be that know one over there is a member here?? Although after reading the controversy it makes these all the more interesting. If you had a sheet of these like me you can see that they dont look fake in any way , they were typical Shenzhen sealed , look to be as genuine silver as any I have seen (plating is fairly easy to tell ) and even with a slight typical tarnish starting on the very outer edge (which was removed by NCS). So the only way I could see these being fake would be someone actually minting very high quality actual silver coins and sealing in Shenzhen OMP. Is it possible ? anything is possible but I have never heard of common coins like this being minted with actual silver and would hardly be worth it. So in my opinion these are 100% legit and maybe a scarce variety.