Big business tells government what to do regardless of the "party" in power ..... and "party" is the word ....
col, I try to keep telling you, the Socialists are a bunch of incompetents, the libs are good at housekeeping, the minor parties do not rate, they are snails in a sprint. There is only ONE choice, Libs or the socialists. Take your pick! Do not ask again.
I obviously know the minor differences between the two major parties, my original question was about all the other parties. Also, wtf are you talking about saying "Libs or socialists"? The Libs have gone full retard with their proposed changes to the parental leave scheme. They both look pretty socialist to me.
+1. I've been to a few party room functions over the years and I'd say most of the Liberal Party members are far more true to their origins than the plethora of crappy socialist policies that are actually being implemented alongside the better management. The parties that are actually true Classical Liberals or Libertarian are few and far between (hence why the list of good alternatives is unfortunately so short). It's so much easier to promise the world by unsustainable taxing and spending than to actually deliver a functioning, welfare enhancing economy by limiting the power of government to being a Protectorate. Sadly most people don't see the difference and would rather misuse the government's geographic monopoly on violence to their own ends (immoral, selfish pricks).
Why the heck is so much of This thread about the two parties who have taken turn creating the spider web of legislation that has your country crashing. I really thought a PM forum might contain a but more intelligence. For that matter how are there not options available that are readily understood representing a more libertarian standpoint. You talk to people you come a cross in life, most of em know they're all a pack of crooks. Most ordinary people know the politicians are shafting us, usually comes back to people choosing the lesser of two evils. I was at a school assembly recently, a class of 9 year olds read submissions they had written to their local MP. The topic was legislating for helmets to be used by scooter riders. Every child repeated the same crap about safety and the need for helmets. I thought great, if the school just got a 100% success rate in educating kids of the dangers there's no need to legislate. Then after the assembly I saw over 50 kids scooting all over the playground....... not one helmet. I guess its not dangerous until the government says so. I don't understand how people can be this stupid. The adults are no better. I honestly think there has been another step happen on the the evolutionary ladder these past couple of generations and most people have been left behind. Its like cats vs dogs the difference between those who have retained the ability to think for themselves and those who sit drooling, waiting for the master to serve up the next "news" report telling them what to think.
Goal #1 for all teachers, brainwash the kids. "Give me the child until he is 7, and I have him for life". OC
How the Rockefellers Re-Engineered Women By Henry Makow Ph.D. Feminism is an excellent example of how the Rockefeller mega cartel uses the awesome power of the mass media (i.e. propaganda.) to control society. In 40 short years, many women have lost touch with their natural loving instincts. Consequently, the family is in disarray, sexual depravity is rampant and birth rates have plummeted. I will expand on the Rockefeller's role, but first we need to remember that for a woman, love is an instinctive act of self-sacrifice. She gives herself to her husband and children and is fulfilled by seeing them thrive and receiving their love, respect and gratitude. A woman makes this supreme sacrifice to only one man who will cherish her and provide for his family. Men instinctively want to fulfill this responsibility. This is the essence of the heterosexual contract (i.e. marriage): female power in exchange for male power expressed as love. Sex is the symbol of this exclusive bond. Marriage and family may not be for everyone but it is the natural path for most. Feminism has trained women to reject this model as "an old fashioned, oppressive stereotype" even though it reflects their natural instincts. On Thursday a British writer reported overhearing two young women: "All men are useless these days," one said. "Yeah," said the other. "The trouble is that they haven't risen to the challenge of feminism. They don't understand that we need them to be more masculine, and instead they have just copped out." That's their logic? If women are less feminine, men will be more masculine? Men aren't designed to fight with women. They need to be affirmed by a woman's acquiescence and faith. When women constantly challenge them, men will "cop out" of marriage and family. Now that love and marriage have been "discredited," women have nothing left to exchange for love but sex. Thus, many are unnaturally obsessed with appearance and pathetically give their bodies to all and sundry. Permanent love is not based on a woman's sex appeal, or personality or achievements. Ultimately, it is based on self-sacrifice. We love the people who love us. THE BIG PICTURE: THE CENTRAL BANKERS People do not realize that feminism is mass indoctrination because they cannot identify the perpetrator, the means or the motive. Recently Aaron Russo, the producer of Bette Midler's movies and "America: From Freedom to Fascism" identified all three confirming what I have been saying. While trying to recruit Russo for the CFR, Nicholas Rockefeller told him that his family foundation created women's liberation using mass media control as part of a long-term plan to enslave humanity. He admitted they want to "chip us." Google "Rockefeller Foundation" and "Women's Studies" and you'll get a half million citations. The hidden goal of feminism is to destroy the family, which interferes with state brainwashing of the young. Side benefits include depopulation and widening the tax base. Displacing men in the role of providers also destabilizes the family. A drastic paradigm shift is required to make sense of the world. The Rockefellers are part of the private world central banking cartel that also controls media, defence, pharmaceutical and other cartels. To protect their monopoly of credit and wealth, they are instituting a world police state ("world government") using the bogus 9-11 attack and endless war as a pretext. Rockefeller told Russo about this plan a year before 9-11. The poet Charles Peguy said, "Everything begins in faith and ends in politics." The banking cartel needs a philosophy to justify enchaining mankind. That philosophy is Satanism. The cartel controls the world through a network of occult societies linked to Freemasonry, Communism, the Vatican and organized Jewry (Bnai Brith, ADL, AJC, Zionism.) The highest occult rank is known as the Illuminati. Modern Western culture is Masonic. Based on Luciferianism, Freemasonry teaches that man and not God determines reality. (Naturally, they need to overrule natural and spiritual laws in order to assert their own control.) They have noticed that people are diffident malleable creatures who prefer to believe what they are told than trust their own reason or perception. Thus, for example, the media successfully promotes homosexual values that conflict with our natural instincts. MEDIA ERADICATES LOVE Every facet of the mass media (movies, TV, magazines, music, commercials, news) is used for indoctrination and social control with the ultimate goal of enslavement. There is a connection between what happened in Communist Russia and what is happening in America today. In both cases the central banking cartel is asserting its totalitarian control. The mass media's function is to distract us from this, and the imminent Iran war and North American Union. Currently they are using the global warming fracas for diversion. In order to destroy the family, the media convinced women that they could not rely on the heterosexual contract. Myrna Blyth was the editor in chief of Ladies Home Journal from 1981 to 2002. In her book "Spin Sisters" (2004) she says the media sold women "a career in exactly the same drum banging way that the Happy Homemaker had been ..sold to their mothers." (38) The Illuminati undermined women's natural loving instincts using the following mantras: 1. Men can no longer be trusted. Using the Lifetime Network as an example, Blyth concluded "all men are 1) unfaithful rats 2) abusive monsters 3) dishonest scumbags, or 4) all of the above. Women on the other hand were...flinty achievers who triumph despite the cavemen who...want to keep them in their place." (62-63) 2. Women are victims by virtue of their sex. Blyth says the media sends "one message loud and clear. Because we are women, we remain victims in our private lives, at work, in society as a whole." (156) Thus women must have a sense of grievance, entitlement and rebellion. The same tactic was used to manipulate Jews, Blacks, workers and gays. (See my "Victim as Moral Zombie" ) 3. Women should be selfish. "Liberation and narcissism have merged," Blyth says. Leisure now means, "time for yourself, spent alone, or perhaps with one's girlfriends but definitely without spouse and kids...Endless articles preached the new feminist gospel, that indulging yourself is an important part of being a healthy, well adjusted woman." (65) 4. Sex is not reserved for love and marriage. Magazines like Glamour and Cosmopolitan urge young women to "put out on their first date,"ogle men openly" and be an athlete in bed. There is no discussion of marriage or family. (160) Such women can't trust a man enough to surrender themselves in love. 5. Self-fulfillment lies in career success and not husband and family. "The social rewards of holding down a job are critical to one's sense of dignity and self worth," Betty Friedan pontificated. In fact, "most work is deeply ordinary," Blyth observes (35-36.) (I'm not saying women can't have jobs, only they shouldn't be tricked out of having families if they want them.) Thus many women are schizophrenic as they attempt to reconcile their natural instincts with constant exhortations to do the opposite. The wreckage -- broken families and dysfunctional people -- is strewn everywhere. At the same time, Playboy Magazine etc. aimed a similar message at men. You don't need to get married to have sex. Marriage and children are a bore. CONCLUSION This consistent media drumbeat is organized brainwashing. Society has been totally subverted by the central banking cartel, using a Satanic cult, Freemasonry as its primary instrument. Most masons are unaware of the truth but the owners of the mass media certainly are. We used to say, "as American as motherhood and apple pie." Only satanists would trash motherhood. Far from empowering women, feminism has unsexed many. It has deprived them of a secure and honored role and reduced them to sex objects and replaceable workers. Luciferians promote rebellion because they are defying what is natural and conducive to happiness. Like their symbol, Lucifer, they wish to play God. God's love can be seen in a woman's dedication to her husband and children. Thus the bankers must destroy it. http://www.savethemales.ca/001904.html
And 7 years later a Royal Commission uncovers Labor Ministers sold the chickens in a dodgy mining deal, enriching themselves by millions.
Don't know if it would be appropriate for clive to run the country but geez he is a funny bastard. He had me in stitches in his interview on the today show during the week. Pretty sure the journos are scared of Interviewing him.
I agree! Everyone I know thinks I'm crazy for liking him, but I can't help it. :lol: He is the most honest pollie in this race, and I reckon he's a cack. Would make life interesting if he was PM.
I don't know. :/ But given the shyte I've been thrown by the current govt., I would be more than willing to find out.
Palmer has got them quietly worried I think. They are running campaigns against him, which is unusual. I would be surprised if they only got 1 seat, which is what the news stations are calling "if he is lucky". I hope he stays in the game after this, we need someone to rattle the cage once in a while
