UK 'threatens' to raid Ecuador embassy over Assange

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  1. Yippe-Ki-Ya

    Yippe-Ki-Ya New Member

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    The UK is a precursor to where Australia is going to end up.

    In some areas we are not far behind, eg its oppressive police state government.

    In other areas it will take us a decade or two to catch up, eg our sh1t4brains policies on emigration and especially assylum seekers.

    Either way - you'll wake up one day and realise that you've become a stranger/outsider in your own country
     
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    If you get time you might find the 4 Corners video that Chilli posted will answer this question.

    It goes into a fair bit of detail, but it's also 40 mins or so.
     
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  3. Chilli

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    Chilli, Aug 20, 2012
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  4. lucky luke

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    You don't appear to be sitting firmly on any fence at all. You appear to already have firm opinions.

    I BELIEVE Assange is fighting for his life, with his own country effectively abandoning him. Nothing melodramatic about that.
     
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  5. lucky luke

    lucky luke Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Australia (ie the majority of the Australian population) are naive to the point of absurdity.
    The Australian government knowingly abuses this absurd naivity.

    How else can one explain the introduction (without debate or whimper) of controversial whole body x-ray machines in our international airports with no opt out option ie either submit or don't fly. Once they are firmly in place in the International airports, then watch how fast it gets set up in all the domestic airports.

    But thats another topic altogether so my apologies for getting off topic.

    The Assange situation is a lightning rod for drawing out those who would have our country go down the proverbial toilet. All in the name of our safety and security? What a fkn joke.
     
    lucky luke, Aug 21, 2012
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    Hawkeye can defend himself, but it would be stupid (and pointless) of him to have essentially copy and pasted the dozen or so prior posts on the pro-Assange side of the case.
     
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  7. Chilli

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    Of course it would have been stupid of him to copy and past pro-assange posts, he stated he is sitting on the fence.

    I am putting forward information for those who are seeking to understand. My mind is clear on this matter.

    Perhaps you could post some anti assange utubes or articles and perhaps you have also made up your mind.

    Each to their own.
     
    Chilli, Aug 21, 2012
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    bordsilver Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Hadn't made up my mind one way or the other, hence the reason why I have enjoyed you guys putting a good case together.
     
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    No, I don't have firm opinions on it, but I was putting forth ideas that were running through my head. This is one of the things about communicating on forums where it's easy to miscommunicate what you are thinking sometimes.

    I think that generally whenever something like this comes up and there are charges of conspiracy and so forth that the real explanation generally turns out to be a lot simpler.

    It feels to me like Assange is playing the media. He's highly intelligent and knows how the media works. The media needs big dramas, real or not (usually not or over-exaggerated) to get people watching and reading in order to attract advertising. That's the facts of the way the media works.

    Assange, it feels to me, is engaging in misdirection by putting all the focus on the US, without any evidence that they intend to extradite him.

    At the same time, I remember thinking at the time that situation with the girls sounded dubious as to whether it was illegal and that hasn't changed much in my mind, but the facts are at the end of the day, I just don't know.

    Hence, why I'm not committing. I don't like any of the stories being put forth. I don't think we've got the true story yet.
     
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  10. lucky luke

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    In the immortal words of Colonel Nathan R. Jessep, "YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!" :D
     
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  12. mmm....shiney!

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    Bingo!!! :)

    Read the story of poor Aliaksandr Barankov, an ex-Belarusian police officer. Granted asylum by Ecuador in 2010 after fleeing Belarus, but then, oh dear, President Lukashenko of Belarus visits Ecuador, signs trade, agriculture and diplomatic agreements and poor old Barankov finds himself arrested and facing extradition charges in court.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...fcfb88-eb37-11e1-866f-60a00f604425_story.html
     
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    I never considered it that way, but once Ecuador has Assange on their soil, imagine what concessions they could get from the USA for handing him over

    Brilliant move by Ecuador there
     
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  14. mmm....shiney!

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    Just an update on Aliaksandr Barankov, which holds some hope for Assange's status.

    Maybe Ecuador is genuine after all in its dealings with Assange?
     
    mmm....shiney!, Sep 26, 2012
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    Looks like my initial thoughts on this were most likely wrong.
     
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    seen the light then :)
     
    Chilli, Sep 26, 2012
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    The bully boys are dropping their masks and establishing to the world that it is theirs to do with as they wish, regardless of borders and human rights.
    http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/us-calls-assange-enemy-of-state-20120927-26m7s.html
     
    JulieW, Sep 26, 2012
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    its a sad day when all you can do is be upset with news like this and not have the power to change things...
     
    dindu5585, Sep 26, 2012
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  19. Guest

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    I know.. How fraken moronic do the power structures take us for?

    Sexual assault? They just lie and lie and lie.
     
    Guest, Sep 27, 2012
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  20. lucky luke

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    Very!!!!
     
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