The High Relief Mammoth

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  1. andrewlee10

    andrewlee10 Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    let cheer up this 50 mm slab. It look great. I got 5 pcs PF69 if keen,

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    Wow, this one fell down hard..

    31 graded:

    70 - 9
    69 - 6
    68 - 8
    67 - 8

    http://www.ngccoin.com/coin-census/...ss-2015-cna-mammoth-high-relief-coinid-782562


    What an equal distribution across 4 grades.

    Weird for a new medal..
     
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    9 70's out of 31 is a lot of 70's for a ultra high relief medal in brass me thinks.



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    the quality of this medal is wide range. Therefore it has 67 and 70 which is big gap in quality.

    www.chinesemedals.com does has 3 or 4 PF68 and 4 PF69 and 1 PF70.

    1 PF70 will keep and all will sell at low price.
     
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    I'd wager the wide range has something to do with this.. :lol:

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    It is dragon hand or mammoth trunk :p:p:p:p:p
     
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    Or octopus! :)



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    Wow, that is ultra-ultra high relief. :D
     
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    Probably a bit of both.. ;)
     
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    Exactly.


    That photo is why I chuckle when I hear others talking about "ultra-high relief this" & "ultra-high relief that" regarding some of those coin & round releases, like Gods of Olympus and Provident Privateer, or whatever.

    When in reality, those coins & rounds are child's play compared to something like the Mammoth, and many other Chinese medals..
     
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    I am puzzle. The sell of this mammoth is very low and slow.......

    I have reduced significant the price due to I just do not see the light :p Joking... is for personal reason...

    Anyone one from USA can offer me a price for NGC PF68. I will let go it......

    This medal high relief is good for the front BUT the reserve is just so.

    Firstly, I not intend to buy it. However, I do not trust me instinct to buy it for sell after seeing the high relief photo. End up it is really slow sell.

    I has asked few ebay dealers and get the same answer.
     
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    I think what happened with the brass 50mm is that it had a really strong start.. Lots of people quickly buying the raw on eBay when it first came out.

    And now that everybody who wanted one has already bought, nobody left to sell to. :(


    Also, I think this one needs strong lighting for the photos -- especially the slabbed, since it's sunken in a bit due to the really high-relief trunk needing room.


    They will sell. Just need some patience with this one..
     
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    price will down for the brass which is insider news. someone will release it and get cash
     
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    Maybe the effect that the uber high relief Chinese medals is having is its influence over designs minted into coins, medals, and rounds in general. It seems to me that in very recent years, some mints have been putting out for the first time or more prominently than before, high relief products. Could the notable enthusiasm for the uber high relief Chinese medals have a role in the fact that some mints are now focusing more on high relief because the market demands higher relief since they see how aesthetically appealing it can be?

    After all, the SilverStacker forum is read by thousands of people weekly I'm sure, some or many of whom may occasionally check out the "Modern Chinese Coins and Medals" section.



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    I'm not sure but the market for coins is also unpredictable...yes? Some products are unexpectedly slow movers and others are unexpectedly fast movers. I am not smart enough to know exactly why some sell quickly but perhaps it's due to a combination of factors converging. Those coins and medals that don't move fast don't have those factors converging quite so well.


    Also, there's a lot of competition out there from various mints / dealers. In other words, there's many medals, coins, and rounds to chose from....many, many, many, many. Competition may be great for buyers but maybe not so great for sellers.




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    I do not understand either. However, I will keep 1 only PF70.
     
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    From 4 months ago on page 1 of this thread..


    Although it slowed down since that, I remember they were still selling at a good pace even after that post for at least a few days.

    This medal just had a great initial reception.. seems like demand peaked quickly, then fell just as fast.


    Only so many eBay customers out there.

    Not sure how well it did in the Asian market..
     
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    As heard the market just average. Might be high mintage (supply) and lower demand lead to this situation. As we known medal collector is lesser than coin. 1 k or higher mintage might be over supply. I do not hear any news in China the actual mintage for the 90 mm and 50 mm.

    It is more on guessing job which is fun of china medal collection. It might be low and no demand now but out of sudden many look for it.

    Therefore, to be safe I keep one pcs pf70. Sell other at current low price. It is not likely to be significant lower price (i.e >20%] on Bob and my webpage If anyone waiting for another record low selling price.
     

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