Rare, Collectable and Old Fashion Silver Bar. II

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  1. Bigfella

    Bigfella Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    New Big Boy.... Love them.....

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    Love the look of those, the kilo in particular. It's a shame we don't have any ARSE stamped old pour silver bars here in the States . . . that I know of anyway :lol:
     
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    Another ultra rare Johnson Matthey bar, this time one produced here in the USA. Note how it's much more chunky and compact than the JM London bar, I think we'll be switching back to smaller size bars and newly released coins, but if a really rare JM Canada 100oz bar comes along close to spot all bets will probably be off LOL
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    Nice bars SilverSiren
    Here comes their little brothers

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    Throw in JM Canada 10oz bar for a bonus ;)

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    Bigfella Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Little older Cousin..LOL

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    Some nice Rare Pairs....

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    To continue with Matthey Garrett, please find below a couple of MG bars purchased from a friendly dealer.
    The bars look quite old.
    It is hard to attribute the age/mintage - no information on AllEnglehard.
    I would suggest MG stamps preceded Matthey Garrett stamps and the most recent had both of them.
    i.e. their 100g bars.
    If anyone has information to share, feel free to do so.

    edit:Just noticed the purity marking is different on both bars, seems to be weird
    Manual labour?

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    A couple of ABC bars, one I have never seen before. it has the same serial and weight stamp as Engelhard bars and the other has the same 999+ SILVER
    all 3 must have come from the same moulds.

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  12. greedy Kobold

    greedy Kobold Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Looking at Matthey Garrett's relationship with JM
    1948 - 1961 GARRETT DAVIDSON & MATTHEY PTY LTD
    1961-1992 Matthey Garrett PTY LTD

    There is 1948 announcement, thought I would share.

    "Argus" July the 20th, 1948
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    'An Amalgamation of Johnson Matthey, Co Ltd London with MESSRS GARRETT & DAVIDSON PTY LTD
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    Retrieved from:
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    Another 1.002 MG bar, similar to one of the posted.
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    Interestingly an MG AD from 1980 has silver bar with the stamp "Matthey Garrett",
    whereas the gold bar has 'MG'
    Given there was an official MG office in Auckland, I believe as early as from 1950s,
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  14. Golden

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    Here is my Johnson Matthey, I didn't find one with the same stamp on allengelhard.com so I've sent them a picture too.
    It looks like it was made for bank LEU, Zurich. A Swiss private bank that existed from 1755 to 2007.
    I hid most of the serial number.
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    Awesome old JML bar, I've never seen one with that counterstamp on it. I think people are holding onto more of their bars waiting to see if the Trump win will translate into higher metals prices, my usual sources for old bars have run dry, at least for the moment.
     
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    Got these beauties today, Swiss Bank Corporation is not really rare, it serves more for size comparison.
    gussa is very hard to find. Extensive googling only found me one example and it didn't have the Volksbank counterstamp on it.
    Interesting size and 999,7 puritiy.

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    Both awesome kilo bars. I've only seen photos of the Ogussa bar of that type (older, more chunky and with the Volksbank counterstamp), never listings. The listings for the SBC kilo with those counterstamps were pretty reasonably priced back when silver was around $15/oz but back then they weren't really on my radar. Now that I want one like that (we do have the MP stamped one) they're always crazy expensive here LOL
     
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    Yes it's interesting how different these bars are, could not resist, made some more photos. :)
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    It could be rare, but who really collects 1000+oz bars?

    I don't think its possible to sell something like that over spot, but I could be wrong.

    Where I am from, people will gladly give me old bars in exchange for a new, shiny ones of same weight and even add some money.
     

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