Phoney Pandas

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  1. yennus

    yennus Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    This sticky is devoted to the world of fake/counterfeit Pandas.

    If you come across any phoney pandas, please list a picture of it here along side with a real one.

    Thanks.

    Some cultural education:
    - pronounced "shaan zai" (shnzhi) [pinyin - shan1 zhai4];
    Refers to Chinese imitation and pirated brands and goods, particularly electronics. Literally "mountain village" or "mountain stronghold", the term refers to the mountain stockades of regional warlords or bandits, far away from official control. "Shanzhai" can also be stretched to refer to people who are lookalikes, low-quality or improved goods, as well as things done in parody. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanzhai

    Next time you come across someone selling a fake panda with some friends, you can utter the words "Shaan zai" between yourselves.
     
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    yennus Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Fake 2007 1oz Silver Panda
    [imgz=http://forums.silverstackers.com/uploads/675_fake2007panda.jpg][​IMG][/imgz] - Fake
    [imgz=http://forums.silverstackers.com/uploads/675_2008agpanda.jpg][​IMG][/imgz] - Real
     
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    somerset Member Silver Stacker

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    Recently saw this on ebay

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    Real image

    [imgz=http://forums.silverstackers.com/uploads/1765_5oz_real.jpg][​IMG][/imgz]
     
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    Fair enough - that's super tiny
     
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    yennus Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    ehhee... a real 1/4oz 1982 Panda should look like this :)
    [imgz=http://forums.silverstackers.com/uploads/675_img_0865.jpeg][​IMG][/imgz] - Real
    [imgz=http://forums.silverstackers.com/uploads/675_img_0867.jpeg][​IMG][/imgz] - Real
    [​IMG] - Fake
     
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    somerset Member Silver Stacker

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    More junk - love the steps on the temple, more like a slippery slide!

    [imgz=http://forums.silverstackers.com/uploads/1765_fake_110.jpg][​IMG][/imgz] - Fake
    [imgz=http://forums.silverstackers.com/uploads/675_img_0742.jpeg][​IMG][/imgz] - Real
    [imgz=http://forums.silverstackers.com/uploads/675_img_0743.jpeg][​IMG][/imgz] - Real
     
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    Regarding post #3 the 5 oz 2010 panda. I saw this on ebay too. The listing said it just comes in a plastic case. Don't the 5 ouncers usually come in a box with a certificate? Looking at the coin itself I can't see the difference between the real one. Can someone point out how to spot this coin as a fake, what is different from the original??
     
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    I'll give you two:

    Fur on the neck of left panda missing
    Main panda on right snout not right shape, nose not defined as in the original

    Kinda like those spot the difference pics - so many...

    Trouble is, they can send you something totally different to the picture too :(
     
  10. Pandacollector

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    Among many defects, the noses on the Pandas are supposed to be mirrored, not frosted.

    Best wishes,
    Peter Anthony
    http://www.pandacollector.com
     
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    yennus Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Always an honor to have the Panda Expert grace us with his presence. Many thanks Panda Collector for your input.
     
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    It is my pleasure to be here. This new Silver Stackers Panda Forum is fabulous.

    Here is a larger photo of a genuine 2010 5 oz. silver Panda reverse. Note the mirrored surfaces on the noses and on the neck of the rear bear. The fur pattern isn't a match, either, although you might need to do a side-by-side comparison to know that.

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    pandacollector.com:

    Best wishes,
    Peter Anthony
    http://www.pandacollector.com
     
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    yennus Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Thanks heaps PandaCollector. I can't wait to receive the signed version of your Panda book from Maggie.

    Many thanks!
     
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    Bad Panda Alert: 190555921501 to good to be true for $23 a pop & these are poor fakes.
     
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    That one is uggleeeee!

    Best wishes,
    Peter Anthony
    http://www.pandacollector.com
     
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    The 5 oz fake Panda in post#3 has been relisted on Ebay, the exact same coin! Buyer must have sent it back, probably saw this thread!
     
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    Only one of these is a bear, but they are both named Pandas. It took modern genetics to confirm that Giant Pandas are indeed bears because they are not closely related to any other living species of bear. Many people felt that Giant Pandas could be members of the raccoon family but DNA testing disproved that idea. Red Pandas are the only members of their own family Ailurus and aren't closely related to Giant Pandas or any other animals.

    Best wishes,
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    http://www.pandacollector.com
     
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    Genuine
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