Hasn't anyone seen "The book of Eli" [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqHxOQWW_Nw&feature=[/youtube] Can't get the link to work ? - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqHxOQWW_Nw&feature=watch_response [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAs4z9GV84Q[/youtube]
Long Katadyn? All my water comes from the rain - i just hope they don't start with the chemtrails again!
You may care to renovate your thoughts on religion having minimal effect on precious metals. Back about 18 years ago, I was asked to participate in a vatican initiated investment scheme called 'vanilla', which the sole purpose of, was to purchase gold for trading purposes. The price at the time was circa US$380/oz. But, as is more common than most people know, the buy/sell spread was manipulated in favour of the vatican, by persons of influence, and typically in the range of US$1 - this differential price did not show up in the regular markets and has been documented if you search hard enough. As a side note, the amount of physical gold that the vatican actually has, is measured in tons. This can also be replicated, although not to the same degree, with other eastern religions.
Fortunately, I do not have a religious or political agenda, but merely pointing out that, almost without exception, religion and/or politics has a great influence on AU/AG prices and availability. To discount their influence is not wise.
I downloaded season 1 based on this thread and just watched the first episode. Holy crap on a stick.. These guys are prepared!! Might go get my recreational gun Licence now for um, clay targets. And a x-bow
I think after watching these shows we should all up grade our preparations for coming major meltdowns of all types. A good place to start to start is your local camping and outdoor store ,they have allsorts of survival gear.
Cannot get a crossbow in Victoria, its a prohibited weapon, with licenses for them even harder to get than those for a firearm, and those of us with crossbow permits would not risk purchasing them for other people. the only way for a "normal" person to get one is to have someone in SA/NT purchase them (they only need a form of ID showing they reside in the state) and they can purchase one over the counter. I have also heard being an SSAA member allows you to apply for an exemption but I have yet to follow that up
All the gear in the world cannot save you unless you know how to use it, its like buying a sail boat without knowing how to sail, that and a good network of contacts.
But if you have the gear,you can do a deal,swap, barter ,join a group of survivers etc... like money in the bank....or should I say likesilver in your pocket!
Whilst the people I know who are involved in this would happily trade (although they have more equipment than most, and have many more skills than most and know how to do things most cannot, ranging from doctors and dentists, to tradies, Enginners etc and then are the "survival" skills) they would not let you become part of the "group" just because of your gear, they are fairly insular now, let alone if the excrement hits the spinning thing. One thing they do lack is manpower for the most part, and I do know of some groups of people who would just throw you down the nearest hole and take your gear anyway, just because you have the toys, without the contacts and skills it means exactly two fifths of SFA
I've been watching this show as well recently out of interest's sake and have to admit that whilst many are chosing the 'economic meltdown' situation as the most likely reason to prepare, I really am wondering why they don't simply use that cash they're spending hand over fist to fortify their homes and leave the country? Whilst the US looking ahead isn't a bed of roses and there very likely could be some nasty outcomes, I don't automatically assume it'll be the same everywhere in the world. Read your history guys. Even world war 2, which killed over 50 million people globally, barely touched the shores of this country at all. We had rationing for sure and a number of our troops were killed, even some citizens at the top end... but largely, Australia was pretty much unaffected. IMHO, unless the power brokers say 'screw it' and start lobbing nukes all over the place in a mutually assured destruction effort, my guess is that Australia will still be a largely sedate country and preferred 'bug out' location for power brokers and people escaping war torn countries looking ahead. Australia is a threat to no one, a resource nation that's largely considered a non-entity on the world stage. Whilst I can appreciate the 'living off the grid' ideology for being self sustainable, I'm not at all convinced that we have 'guns, beans and bullion' requirements for the years ahead to survive. For sure, a lot of people who are debtors or tied to industries that only benefit boom periods will suffer - just like when the last great depression swept the world - but overall, the balance in this country will be maintained. We're still a very small nation by international standards, with swathes of untouched, arable land - resource rich with an infrastructure that is self sustaining. In a 'worst case' scenario, our government can pull the trigger on nationalisation, close borders and quite honestly, we'll get by just fine. We are not a country that absolutely requires international trade to survive and I think that, combined with the 'relatively' stable government system we have will probably keep Australia as the 'best of a bad bunch' solution in the years ahead. Shows like this promote not only the self sustaining ideology which I admire, but it also promotes a sense of urgency and FEAR in the viewer. Much of it unnecessary. My opinion is that if you're an Australian, even if the US descends into civil war and their dollar collapses, as long as you're not up to your neck in debt and tied to the consumer industry for your daily bread, you really should be fine. If the US dollar shits itself, Australia has already shown it's ready to tie itself to whatever the next paradigm is and if that turns out to be the Yuan or Gold, Aussie really has it's bases already covered. Like I said before, the socialist agenda of our political system is annoying as hell if you're a net tax payer, but when the shit hits the fan anywhere else, I think Australia is definitely the place to be in the years ahead. I'm hardly going to go looking for massive food and water stockpiles, guns and ammo tomorrow. I'd rather simply remain debt free, stack some bullion for insurance and look at production industries & manufacturing or agriculture to protect and build wealth.
Florida Town Buys 9-Ton Emergency TK-4 Tactical Vehicle to "Provide Residents Extra Protection During Hurricanes" http://www.zerohedge.com/contribute...y-tk-4-tactical-vehicle-“provide-residents-ex Common... this is getting a tad ridiculous...
The US Government is going to make a prepper out of me yet. I called my brokerage to check on the processing of my individual 401k account. The delay is due to the fact that every new brokerage account has to be sent to the US Government for approval under the Patriot Act. Thought about that for a few minutes and requested that they wire funds from a personal account. Time to buy some more AGEs and get that money out of the system.
I Beleive that all the survival equipment would not mean much if you do not hold a strong psychological stance/ an inner strength and a lot of faith. You need to add "being prepared mentally" to the list. People would be losing their minds left, right and centre in such an event, and tempers would be flying high. The collapse of the world ego, it would be excruciatingly painful on people.
I have a modest stack of food and essentials. We also have a small veggie patch that supplements our groceries. Worst case scenario, we will have food when food is hard to come by. Best case, we'll be using the rice cooker a little more often than we currently do... I also have a GOOD bag in the car to help me get home on foot if I'm ever stuck (already used the sleeping bag and spare clothes a few times), and a BOB at home that would allow me to either go bush or get back to our property out of the city on foot. It's the only thing I take camping a few times a year, and I live out of it for a few days to test what I need and what I can go without. Stacking silver is one part of my insurance that would allow me to barter for items in an economic collapse, and would potentially allow for a profitable situation coming out the other side of an economic shitstorm. Again, I hope and doubt that I will ever really need to enact any of these contingencies, but I enjoy them as a hobby, and I enjoy the security of knowing that I'm at least somewhat prepared for the unexpected.
IMO - maybe consider not looking at this possible outcome as an American? seems that all preppers are located on Y'tube and live in the great US of A. It may or could happen in the states but here in Australia I don't think so...I suppose at the end of the day if this doesn'nt happen and your hell bent on prepping you can (a)learn how to grow a veggie patch which is a good thing (b) learn how to shoot straight and respresent Australia in the next Olympics (c) have a better understanding on the financial markets work which will always help you later in life for investing (d) have a really good laugh 20 years from now on how innocent you were prepping :lol: added bonus is that you can have a great farting comp with your mates after eating all those tins of beans you stored away.
Small point of protest there. 'faith' is the antithesis of objective reality and ironically, is the path of virtue that lead a lot of people into trouble in the first place. 'faith' that things will get better. 'faith' that things will turn around. 'faith' that god will take care of you and your family. 'faith' that your elected leaders will have a plan to protect you in your hour of need. 'faith' that those in power who make your financial decisions for you have your best interests at heart? 'faith' in kindness of humanity who will share their food with you when their family is starving? When you are placed in a position where self reliance is key to survival, 'faith' is the last thing you want to rely upon! It's at that stage where appreciation and acceptance of objective reality is what will serve you most. The psychological strength needed to survive such a situation is born from accepting your position and having an objective plan to counter act upon it. If you sit on the floor and simply pray for survival, you'll very likely perish. It's a question of conflicting mindsets and if reality shows you anything, it's those who react in accordance with reality that are the ones most likely to survive. Those who have the intestinal fortitude to face objective reality are the strong and prepared minds.
