Doomday Preppers

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  1. goldpelican

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    Let's not discuss ways of attacking an anti-terrorism vehicle on a public forum please :/
     
  2. THUCYDIDES79

    THUCYDIDES79 New Member Silver Stacker

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    They told us a similar thing too

    gold as money = bad
    paper as money = good

    and they lied
     
  3. boston

    boston Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Personally, I think the Bible is probably the best source of information, of what is to come.
     
  4. Barbarian At The Gate

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    http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-ne...of-jp-morgan-goldman-sachs-megabanks_08122012

    Former money manager Ann Barnhardt, who in November of 2011 made the decision to cease operations of her brokerage firm and return funds to her customers citing "systemic" problems within the entire financial industry, has issued a new warning about the stability of US banks and the safety of individual deposit accounts.

    The warning, stemming from a recent federal appeals court ruling surrounding customer funds lost during the 2007 collapse of Chicago futures broker Sentinel, indicates that individuals who lose deposited funds because a financial institution improperly manages that money, even if those funds are supposed to be "segregated" from other operations of the firm, are essentially left with no recourse if the firm goes belly-up. According to the court, a misallocation of those customer funds, "is not, on its own, sufficient to rule as a matter of law that Sentinel acted 'with actual intent to hinder, delay, or defraud' its customers."

    The implications of the ruling, according to Barnhardt, will affect the monies of all private individuals who have seen their deposit accounts wiped out in the collapse of firms like John Corzine's MF Global and put all deposit account holders in the country at risk should their bank be faced with a financial windstorm:

    The NFA in collusion with the banksters, government and judiciary have achieved their goal. The entire concept of "customer segregated funds" is officially, completely, legally dead.

    Guys, it is OVER. I know that many of you are still cowering in normalcy bias, unable to deal with reality, unable to face the world as it is, but you have GOT to snap out of it. The marketplace is DESTROYED. You CANNOT be in these markets. All legal protections are now officially gone.



    The federal appeals court ruled yesterday that not only does BNYM stay at the front of the line, but that using customer segregated funds as collateral is NOT a crime, and that co-mingling customer segregated funds with proprietary funds is NOT fraud.



    What this means is that even if Jon Corzine is somehow dragged into court by private citizens, because you know damn good and well that the Justice Department will never, ever touch him, Corzine now has a legal precedent, likely from a bribed or otherwise coerced Federal Appeals Court, explicitly stating that an FCM can use customer deposits to pay its debts, and that the customers themselves are subjugated and have basically no legal right to their own monies, no matter what the law says, or what legal assurances, claims or guarantees are made to that customer about their funds held with an FCM or any other brokerage or depository institution. The "secured" party at the front of the line will always be the mega-bank who made the fraudulent loan using the stolen customer funds as collateral.

    In other words, all customer funds in the United States are now the legal property of JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, BNYM, or whichever megabank is the counterparty on the loans the FCM or depository institution takes out in order to fund its mega-levered proprietary in-house trading desks.

    Source: Ann Barnhardt via Steve Quayle

    The ruling is specifically designed to protect large financial institutions that have (purposefully) mismanaged customer funds and used the hard-earned life savings of Americans to gamble on equities, commodities and bond markets. If those firms happen to make the wrong bet, as MF Global, Sentinel and a handful of others have recently done, depositors who have placed funds with the banks under the belief that their bank account is securely protected from trading liabilities are now completely exposed and liable for the incompetence and negligence of those who engage in market trading.

    This latest ruling combined with recent actions by the Federal Reserve and other government regulators suggests a massive fraud has taken place and the financial system itself is under extreme strain with the potential to make the financial collapse of 2007/2008 look like just a training exercise.

    In recent days, for example, it's come to light that the government has secretly called on the country's five major banks to prepare themselves for collapse by creating stress recovery plans to be used in the event of worst case scenarios.

    A few weeks ago, the Federal Reserve also implemented a new policy for money market funds held by financial institutions. Per the new policy, money market funds, which account for some $2.7 trillion in deposits across the United States, can be frozen in the event of an emergency or financial panic. This means that if and when the system does go into a tailspin, at exactly the time people will want to pull their money out of their bank account, they will be restricted from doing so.

    These latest actions by government regulators, judges and financial institutions point to one thing: that we have an unprecedented financial collapse in the making. If such a financial crisis comes to pass it is clear that the policies and procedures now in place will transfer the legally owned deposits and money market savings of individual Americans into the hands of the banks at which those funds are kept.

    Get Your Money Out.
     
  5. Barbarian At The Gate

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    http://ytd.mybrowserbar.com/cgi/err...05B0F7&ccv=152&cnid=937811&cco=US&ct=3&sc=403

    OBAMA OPERATIVES WILL COMMIT 'REICHSTAG' EVENT TO TRIGGER MARTIAL LAW, DHS WHISTLEBLOWER REVEALS

    OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO STAGE 'REICHSTAG' EVENT AS TRIGGER FOR MARTIAL LAW, DHS SOURCE WARNS
    'Reichstag' event could involve false assassination attempt blamed on "white supremacists"
    Incited racial riots would lead to calls for government "crackdown"
    Civil unrest would lead to martial law, DHS travel checkpoints, indefinite delay of elections
    Washington, DC The Obama agents, through the DHS and other assorted colluders, are plotting a major 'Reichstag' event to generate racial riots and produce the justification for martial law, delaying the November 2012 elections, possibly indefinitely, a DHS whistleblower informed the Canada Free Press on Tuesday.
    The 'Reichstag Event' would take the form of a staged assassination attempt against Barack Obama, "carefully choreographed" and manufactured by Obama operatives. It would subsequently be blamed on "white supremacists" and used to enrage the black community to rioting and looting, the DHS source warned.
    The Obama administration would then use the violence and chaos they created as justification for the imposition of martial law in major urban cities in America, the creation of DHS checkpoints, restriction of travel, and the indefinite delay of the November 2012 elections.
    The Reichstag event refers to a fire started during Hitler's rise to power. The fire allowed him to grab emergency powers and murder his opposition. Historians have long believed that Hitler started the fire himself, while he blamed it on the Communists.
    The anonymous whistleblower elaborated on how the Obama administration is using the Occupy movement, labor unions, and other assorted subversive groups to create massive chaos within the nation.
    "Using untracked campaign funds, they are paying people to infiltrate the various movements to cause physical destruction of property and disrupt commerce. That began last year, but has increased ten-fold already this year," the DHS source shared.
    "Obama is using some high profile people as pawns to foment the revolution. I heard several times through very credible sources that [Louis] Farrakhan is on the CIA payroll. Other have been named as well, but I'm not prepared to identify them yet. Farrakhan is to coordinate the Blacks and the Muslims to prepare for riots this summer, using any means necessary."
    The recent revelations appeared to complement warnings given by other government insiders, who alleged that Jeremiah Wright, Van Jones, Al Sharpton, and Jesse Jackson were all agent provocateurs whose mission was to inflame racial tensions and spark open conflict in the streets of America.
    According to the DHS source, a global economic collapse is coming, which the Obama administration is well aware of. They wish to build a system of global governance from the ashes of the previous financial system. In order for this mission to be completed, the Obama administration needs more time at the helm of power. Their reasons for concern are justified; as recently as May 8, influential political prognosticator Dick Morris predicted a Romney landslide if the election were held today.
    The shocking news also seemed to confirm recent actions taken by the DHS, such as their purchase of 450 million rounds of ammunition and their recent BlackHawk helicopters operation in Chicago, which looked frighteningly similar to a civil unrest exercise, but was described as "routine training".
    The concept of a staged assassination attempt against Barack Obama is not new as well and was first voiced by a knowledgeable White House insider known only as "WHI".
    Insider: A manufactured threat against the President of the United States. Something easily digested by the media and the American public. Not a real threat something totally of their own making. They will use it if they need to got no doubt whatsoever about that. Jarrett has approved the ideaand did so a long time ago. There were whispers of it during the 2008 campaign. McCain was so god-awful it never reached a serious considerationbut the plan was discussed. If needed they were willing to go that route. It would be the ultimate use of the race card in the history of American politics. Andit would likely work if they got away with it.
    Insider: You don't need to ask that question. Not after what we've discussed this past year. Not after what I've told you has proven out over and over again. So stop asking the fuing question. You need to accept the factif you haven't done so yet you need to accept the fact these people are playing for keeps. I told you how many times? How many times have I said it? These are not Democrats. These folks are something else entirely. And they are willing to push the country all of us, right against the fuing wall. Hard. I'm pushing back. Others are too. All of this is part of that effort. A small part, but an important one.
    As with the Occupy movement, it appears as if the Obama administration executed a test-run of the plot, with a "shot being fired" at the White House. This would lend credibility when they choreographed the attempt for the masses.
    As early as August 2011, WHI also predicted race riots coming in the summer of 2012. The use of the Trayvon Martin death and the subsequent incitements to violence by the media, Obama operatives, and useful idiots, followed by the subsequent threats by the NBPP of a coming "race war" appear to have been merely a sign of what's to come.
    Middle-class American citizens were shocked and appalled at the allegations, with many hoping they were not true. Some said they had harbored similar suspicions for quite some time, due to the many anomalies and inaccuracies emanating from the current operatives inhabiting the White House.
    The DHS source claimed that campaign funds were being directly used to fund the incitements to violence and rioting that the Obama administration was seeking to spark.
    "Using untracked campaign funds, they are paying people to infiltrate the various movements to cause physical destruction of property and disrupt commerce. That began last year, but has increased ten-fold already this year," stated this source.
    "He added that they are using some lower level DHS agents to make the payments under the context of tracking subversives, but they are the unwitting subversives."
    The use of campaign funds, funneled through DHS agents to street-level agitators for the purpose of fomenting violence, would be extremely legally questionable, if not outright illegal, certain legal experts shared.
    Intelligence officials said that if the allegations were true, the degree to which extremists had penetrated the upper echelons of the American government, finance, and security structure was unparalleled.
    "Let's just say that we are not taking these accusations lightly," one official remarked on condition of anonymity. "Certain figures will be placed under a microscope, along with their associates."
    Valerie Jarrett, the shadowy figure always at Obama's side, has been accused by some of "manipulating" or "controlling' the President. Just who does she work for? Who does she take orders from?
    The possibility that Barack Obama's operatives, under the direction of Valerie Jarrett, was actively involved in the facilitation of street violence and mob chaos disturbed citizens, with many deeming it unpatriotic, subversive, and possibly seditious.
    "Isn't this why HUAC was created?", one middle-class citizen angrily questioned. "Congress must re-instate HUAC, hold hearings, and find out if there is any truth to this."
    The intensely close co-ordination of seemingly separate entities confirmed the suspicions of many that communist agents had infiltrated major institutions, organizations, and trade unions, and were working together to sabotage America.
    "Their apparatus can be seen as a type of octupus, having many tentacles," one intelligence source confided on condition of anonymity. "Occupy is one tentacle, the unions are another, the Black Panthers are another, the radical black/islamic supremacists(Wright, Farrakhan, Van Jones, Sharpton) are another, DHS and its' umbrella agencies are another, the mainstream press is another," the source explained. "These tentacles are all working together, seemingly separate, but eventually they are controlled by the same small group of people. They receive their directives and marching orders and mindlessly execute them."
    The intelligence official predicted that in the very near future, all of the seemingly separate entities would be clearly exposed as working together, co-ordinating their activities together, and driving for the same goal the destruction of America as a constitutional republic, the destruction of its capitalist system, and the dethroning of the U.S. as a superpower.
     
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    Which bible ? theres so many versions there must have been mistakes in some :rolleyes:
     
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    boston Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    True. There are many different versions, however almost without exception the last book of the Bible, the book of revelations, is reasonably consistent across the various versions.
     
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    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8WmvMCTW_g[/youtube]
     
  9. Barbarian At The Gate

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    This will make your head spin, Excorist-style.



    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwKGNO59pqA[/youtube]
     
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    Haha I just finished watching that Ann Barnhardt clip earlier. She is awesome.
     
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    I take this as meaning they are freezing the large bank accounts and not regular customer checking and saving accounts. As long as the common folk still have access to some money, even if it's regulated, society will go on. If they just close the banks and say, sorry, your money is being held, there will be riots the next day from people who can't buy food, which I believe they are well aware of.

    It would be interesting if they used the new rules above to get rid of paper currency completely and go to a 100% electronic system. I don't know if the governments benefit or not from having actual paper money. Cash businesses keep them from getting taxes and allow illegal products to be bought and sold, but maybe there's an upside I don't know about. This would be a way to do away with it paper money for good with possibly minimal side effects.

    Crash. Accounts frozen. You can each get $500 a week cash to sustain yourselves, as we convert over. You can still buy anything you want via credit. If you do not have a credit/debit card, your bank will give you one, or you can go to a check cashier and get a refillable pre-paid card for your paycheck.

    Hmmmmm......
     
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    Wow great listen... worth it for the facial expressions alone :lol:
     
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    The eyes are the window to the soul.
     
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    "Obama is using some high profile people as pawns to foment the revolution. I heard several times through very credible sources that [Louis] Farrakhan is on the CIA payroll. Other have been named as well, but I'm not prepared to identify them yet. Farrakhan is to coordinate the Blacks and the Muslims to prepare for riots this summer, using any means necessary."

    What happened to the riots? Dang, another conspiracy theory gone bad. While I believe BO is capable of such a scenario, you don't pull a stunt like that unless you are losing.
     
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    Those poor little police armored cars will not be used against you in mass civil unrest, I spent considerable time in the Army, they do what is called DACC training every year. In a mass civil unrest situation in the N.T. You will be facing Armoured Personnel Carriers with 50.cal machine guns, heavy armour Abrams MBTs and about 2000 soldiers with riot gear, capsicum spray and small arms(steyr rifles, Minimi belt fed weapons, shotguns).
     
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    Down here in the sticks, I do not believe we need to worry about that sort of artillery.

    But like I said.. I'm in the sticks... :/
     
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    The more popular prepping & survivalist forums in the US have threads advising their members not to appear on 'Doomsday Preppers' , sighting numerous instances where members actions & statements were edited out of context to make them appear as crackpots.
     
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    Hey guys just to let you know if you have Fox/Austar "Doomsday Preppers "are on tonight on channel 610 Nat Geo @7.30pm.
     
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    I doubt that in a case of large scale civil unrest the U.S. gov. would send in troops - They will simply release some nefarious compound into the water supply of all of their cities at once.
     
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    (US) Social Security Administration orders thousands of rounds of hollow point bullets

    http://rt.com/usa/news/administration-rounds-hollow-point-768/
    The mission statement of the US Social Security Administration is to deliver services that meet the changing
    needs of the public. They are doing that by placing an order for 174,000 rounds of hollow point bullets.





    A bit like CentreLink??

    Add this to the Home Land Security purchase of ammunition and you get a lot of ammo!
     

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