Australian Gold Repatriation Petition - Draft

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  1. CriticalSilver

    CriticalSilver New Member Silver Stacker

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    For those interested in commensing or participating in a petition of the Australian Senate to repatriate the Australian Gold reserves.

    The process of submitting a petition to the Australian Senate is defined here:
    http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Petitions/Senate_Petitions/petitions

    It is a relatively simple process and they accept electronic petitions.

    To start the ball rolling I have drafted a petition and present it below for the review and feedback of those interested.

    I don't mind setting it up and presenting it to a senator for their presentation, might have more weight coming from some industry heavyweights, but one never knows where things lead. So if you have any golden insights into the wording please present them below. I will do my best to incorporate them.
     
  2. Captain Kookaburra

    Captain Kookaburra Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    I offer my full support to the above.
     
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    Looks great gino, got my support, I would suggest 2 changes, instead of buying precious metals I would just keep it to and specify gold, and clarify the tax payment as all tax and govt fees payable to the Comm govt be paid in kind by gol by gold. This may be difficult as most mining companies dont refine, but it could apply to all businesses deriving income from gold bullion.
     
  5. Emanance

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    Very well written Gino. Also just wanted to say that this petition is A grand idea! :).
     
  6. CriticalSilver

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    7) Increasing the likelihood that a new international reserve currency is eventually adopted to replace the US dollar which will be wholly or partially backed by gold as a necessity for restoring confidence in an independent reference for value.

    4) include Equador and identify the increasing trend in repatriations

    Should mention be made of the counter-party risk of holding national assets in financially distressed countries like the UK with an increasingly negative credit rating outlook? If they are downgraded through the course of the petition it could make the case more compelling.
     
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    Couple of points, in (b) does Australia only have gold reserves in London? Be more a catchall phrase to say repatriate all gold held outside of Australia be send to Australia. In c), is there presently a tax or you propose a tax? Its kind of not clear?
     
  8. Big A.D.

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    Azerbaijan is both accumulating and taking delivery of physical gold.

    Rather than "a new international reserve currency", might be worth noting the existence of SDRs (an old international reserve currency) and/or the increased discussion of multi-currency baskets such as the mooted BRICS basket as a medium for international trade (the point being that there are several alternatives to the USD on the table in one form or another.
     
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    As a shareholder in a precious metals producer I object strongly to any money being taken in tax that should end up in my pocket.

    Yet more sovereign risk in Australian mining...

    ** Please note I do not want to derail this petition thread into a tax conversation **
     
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    you want to give control of the gold to treasury, I prefer it nowhere near the monetary vandals that currently occupy the office of treasury thanks. Reserve bank vault for me
     
  11. CriticalSilver

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  12. CriticalSilver

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    As far as I can tell, the RBA sold the gold and is part of the US dollar reserve system of central banks and is by design an independent authority, not bound to follow government orders. This, coupled with its monopoly of printing currency and the corruption around the bribery of foreign officials to win money printing contracts, put it in conflict with the ideals of gold. Its agenda is printing money and setting the its interest rate. The Treasury on the other hand seems to have the historical role of caretaker of the assets of the nation and it is that role, other than issuing new government debt, that I think is more appropriate and more likely to be able to receive instruction from the government.

    Edit: I want to add that the RBA is an agency of the Treasury. I guess they could use the RBA as a delegated custodian where the Treasury doesn't have facilities, but the RBA does not had good form in gold management.
     
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    Good point! What if the suggestion is changed to something like "the efficiency of collecting taxes payable from precious metal mining company in the refined metals extracted." What's the point of having those companies pay taxes in fiat currency when they can provide what is sought directly?
     
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    I stated out just with Gold only but couldn't really justify not including the total PM complex. After all they each have currency symbols. I like the idea of a strategic store of Silver, etc. along with gold, it is a diversification really, but only applies to the collection of taxes from those mining PMs.

    Neither did I want to be too prescriptive, they employ specialists that should be able to make appropriate decisions once given instruction. The intent of "return the gold from the BOE" and "accumulate more" is what is important I think.
     
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    CriticalSilver New Member Silver Stacker

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    It doesn't have to be one or the other. If you would like to pursue a Public Mandate please do.

    That article does make a good point of the degree of public awareness of the issue being important for a petition's success.

    Hopefully, with a completed petition, there will be ideas on how to address this.
     
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    The petition with suggestions incorporated:

     
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    It's good and I like it. However to make it more professional and politically acceptable, I'd recommend using less "extreme" or "polarizing" words. Basically tone down the superlatives to read more neutral, unbiased and scientific.

    For instance let us take this sentence:

    "We are concerned that the increasingly aggressive monetary policies of international Central Banks to debase their currencies through programs that amount to rampant money printing is"

    Might be better to write as:

    "We are concerned that the current monetary policies of international Central Banks, such as increasing the printing of money, are debasing their currencies. It is also:"

    I understand you're trying to make a point and feel passionate about all this, but an official submission should not be overly passionate or emotional. It detracts from the debate and people might dismiss you out of hand as extremist. Hence my suggestion of not using words such as "rampant" and "aggressive".

    But overall it reads very well and I'll support it.
     
  19. mmm....shiney!

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    Gold is the only reserve asset
     
  20. goldpelican

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    Definitely should be run through the hands of a professional copy writer before submission - might as well deliver a polished message.

    Not a criticism - more of a practical measure to take, get someone independent to run their eyes over the wording.
     

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