2020 Collapse

Discussion in 'Markets & Economies' started by TreasureHunter, Dec 8, 2019.

  1. hardyakkagold

    hardyakkagold Well-Known Member

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    Like I said before this all circus theatrics by the puppet masters to keep the sheeple entertained and distracted from more important
    things like the collapse of the world economy and the destruction of all our rights and freedoms.

    Who ever wins the election, the deepstate is assured of having their man in the top job.

    Our lords and rulers found out long time ago, that backing only one horse in a two or more horse contest or conflict was bad for business.

    Sure Trump might be a lesser of the two evils and from a different competing faction of the deepstate, but to see otherwise intelligent people
    sprout all this BS about how good Trump is and how he is going to drain the swamp makes me want to give up hope for humanity.

    The deepstate controls every aspect of US society from the military industrial complex, the CIA, FBI, FED, and every other institution,
    so can someone please tell me how Trump could even manage to change anything in a large-scale meaning full way if he was not in
    the deepstate club?
     
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  2. sgbuyer

    sgbuyer Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    I don't know about Australia, but the last couple of days has been an eye opener to me. The censorship in the US in the last couple of months is greater than Singapore. Bear in mind, we are basically a single party political system, and all newspapers are owned or partially owned by the government. But even that, there is an effort to actually have a balanced view even if biased to one side.

    There's a paradigm shift, maybe this is the paradigm shift that dalio is talking about?
     
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  3. mmm....shiney!

    mmm....shiney! Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    There are no puppet masters.
     
  4. spannermonkey

    spannermonkey Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    NO ? :eek:
    Did you hear about the meeting in the Kremlin in 99
    Present were
    George W. Bush snr
    12 Russian families
    Cousin Vlad
    And all of the Russian resources were divided amongst these families
    Lots of promises were made by Bush to play the same game .
    But
    Bush snr ,did what the Americans usually do o_O
    Speak with fork tongue & cousin Vlad had a major dummby spit :eek:
    So who made it all happen ?
    No puppet masters :rolleyes:
     
  5. mmm....shiney!

    mmm....shiney! Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    How do you know that?

    There are no puppet masters.

    If you’re making financial decisions based upon the fantasy that puppet masters exists then you’re making the wrong financial decisions.
     
  6. mmm....shiney!

    mmm....shiney! Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Or are you referring to politicians when you say puppet masters?

    It’s the pollies that call the shots.
     
  7. mmm....shiney!

    mmm....shiney! Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    It’s a shame that the likes of @hardyakkagold and @JohnnyBravo300 have put me on their ignore list because they promote complete bullshit.

    And all I’m left with is debating with someone like you @spannermonkey who I actually respect.
     
  8. spannermonkey

    spannermonkey Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    My business partner has rather good connections in Moscow ,
    When he makes 1 phonecall to find out if we can buy bullion in Russia .
    Instant reply of ,$5M US minimum spend ;)
     
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  10. JohnnyBravo300

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    No ones on my ignore list haha. I read what everyone says.
    People can believe what they want.
     
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  12. jultorsk

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    Hugely interesting read (more in the article). :eek:

    https://www.ft.com/content/7947ea4c-a21a-45bb-973c-8df54566746a

    Global gosbankification risk is now at orange
    Beware of Chinese central bankers bearing frictionless and cheap CBDC payment gifts.

    “If it’s free, you’re the product” has become the adage of our digital times.

    There is, as we are learning, always some iota of risk in giving something of yourself away for free.

    In the best-case scenario, your data will be harvested in line with your personal sharing preferences and used to advertise products and content to you that you actually want and benefit from. That’s positive sum progress.

    In the worst-case scenario your personal data will be harvested without permission and potentially used against you, whether that’s for the purposes of sending you political propaganda when you are most susceptible, inferior products you don’t really want to use or for the purposes of getting you to behave in ways that benefit others. That’s not progress, it’s a form of indentured servitude.

    --

    But the bigger issue about who controls the related data and what they do with it must not be lost sight of. The existential risks to liberty are real and very concerning.

    We turn in that regard to the recent policy brief put out by the Australian Strategic Policy Institute’s International Cyber Policy Centre.

    Here’s the thrust of the issue in their eyes (our emphasis):

    "What’s the problem?

    China’s central bank digital currency, known as ‘DC/EP’ (Digital Currency / Electronic Payment), is rapidly progressing and, if successful, would have major international implications that have not yet been widely considered by policymakers.

    DC/EP would have ramifications for governments, investors, and companies, including China’s own tech champions. It has the potential to create the world’s largest centralised repository of financial transactions data and, while it may address some financial governance challenges, such as money laundering, it would also create unprecedented opportunities for surveillance.

    The initial impact of a successful DC/EP project will be primarily domestic, but little thought has been given to the longer term and global implications.

    DC/EP could be exported overseas via the digital wallets of Chinese tourists, students and businesspeople. Over time, it is not far-fetched to speculate that the Chinese party-state will incentivise or even mandate that foreigners also use DC/EP for certain categories of cross-border RMB transactions as a condition of accessing the Chinese marketplace.

    DC/EP intersects with China’s ambitions to shape global technological and financial standards, for example, through the promotion of RMB internationalisation and fintech standards-setting along sites of the Belt and Road Initiative (BRI). In the long term, therefore, a successful DC/EP could greatly expand the party-state’s ability to monitor and shape economic behaviour well beyond the borders of the People’s Republic of China (PRC)."
     
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  13. sgbuyer

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    If Pelosi gives in on the stimulus, it means Trump is probably going to win?
     
  14. mmm....shiney!

    mmm....shiney! Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    @madaw1 what @spannermonkey said doesn't prove there are any puppet masters. It's the pollies that are in control. That doesn't mean that they are free of any influence from special interest groups, it just means that there is no powerful group of individuals collaborating together to manage the affairs of the world. Some people just have to be believe in wild fantasies like God or Santa Claus in order to be comforted.
     
  15. mmm....shiney!

    mmm....shiney! Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Shame for you that only the shit sinks in.
     
  16. JohnnyBravo300

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    I never believed that. I was just kidding.
    Is that better?
    Trump is in charge yes siree.
     
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  17. mmm....shiney!

    mmm....shiney! Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Exactly.
     
  18. hardyakkagold

    hardyakkagold Well-Known Member

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    Ignored member wrote: ".... doesn't prove that there are any puppet masters. It is the pollies that are in control.......There are no powerful groups
    or individuals corroborating together to manage the affairs of the world" :D:p:D:p:D:p

    Thanks for the laughs shiney old boy, I don't even need to go to the jokes of the day thread to get my daily laughs, I just need to read the crap that you post constantly.

    How much is the Rothschild/Rockefeller & Co club paying you to spread disinformation on this forum?
    Obviously not enough for you to take early retirement:rolleyes:

    It is not that I never read your posts, I do sometimes come on here without sighing on so I am aware of what you post.

    It is just that I usually can't be bothered to reply to most of the crap that you post here, got better things to do with my free time,
    sorry about that, no hard feelings.;)
     
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  19. spannermonkey

    spannermonkey Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    He occasionally likes to remind us all
    That
    He is only a shit-stirrer o_O
    You just have to remember that each time he posts o_O
     
  20. JohnnyBravo300

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    That's obvious!
     

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