2020 Collapse

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  1. sgbuyer

    sgbuyer Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Not looking good. The fortune is good for China if Europeans fight Europeans.
     
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    Sweden drones: Sightings reported over nuclear plants and palace

    "Days of sightings of drones over key Swedish sites including nuclear plants have prompted the country's security service to take the lead in an investigation.

    Three nuclear sites have been targeted and sightings have been reported over airports and the royal palace.

    Authorities have not speculated on who is behind the mysterious drones.

    Police and the coastguard are searching the sea and islands around Stockholm, local media reports say."

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60035446


    If this is not fake news, then it is probably the Ruskies "testing" the Swedish air space.
     
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    Philospher David Chalmers identifies 2 sides to the VR debate, virtual realism and virtual irrealism:

    Virtual realism holds that virtual objects really exist, events in virtual reality really take place, experiences in virtual reality are non-illusory and that virtual experiences are as valuable as non-virtual experiences.

    Naturally the last statement is value baseband would not be shared by all, however just because one person can't see value in VR doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

    Virtual irrealism holds the opposite view, namely that virtual objects do not really exist, events in virtual reality do not really take place, experiences in virtual reality are illusory and that virtual experiences are less valuable than non-virtual experiences.

    Again, the last statement is a value judgment only.

    http://consc.net/papers/virtual.pdf

    In his paper Chalmers extends the virtual realism position and argues for what he calls a virtual digitalist view, namely that virtual objects really exist and are digital objects, events in virtual worlds are largely digital events that really take place, experiences in virtual reality involve non-illusory perceptions of a digital world and virtual experiences of a digital world can be about as valuable as non-virtual experiences of a non-digital world.
     
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    Unlikely it's fake news or coincidence - Russia just did a little "sightseeing" over a Finnish air base as well.
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    A large Russian cargo plane took an lengthy, unexpected and unexplained route over central and southern Finland on Saturday night, passing over Finland's Air Force headquarters and a military intelligence unit.

    According to military and security experts interviewed by Yle, the reason for the flight's detour may have been either a protest by Russia or an intelligence-gathering mission as political tensions in the Baltic region continue to escalate.

    The cargo plane took off from Moscow at about 7.26pm Finnish time on Saturday evening and flew towards the city of Murmansk in northwestern Russia. However, the flight turned over the White Sea, a southern inlet of the Barents Sea, at roughly the latitude of the city of Oulu and instead flew to the German city of Leipzig.

    The plane's route therefore took it over Finland from Suomussalmi in the east to Turku in the southwest, passing Tikkakoski near the city of Jyväskylä, where the Finnish Air Force headquarters and part of the Finnish Defense Forces' intelligence department are located. The cargo plane also passed close to the Halli military airport in Jämsä, Central Finland.
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    https://yle.fi/news/3-12275191

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    Well, all this is playing into Biden's plan. Destabilisation of Europe. But biggest winner is China if they can take back Asia from the white people, even better without a fight, buy it just like Alaska.
     
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    The White House warned yesterday the situation was 'extremely dangerous' and that Moscow could launch an attack 'at any point'.

    It had been thought Mr Putin would choose the 'simple option' of sending troops into the Donbass region in south-eastern Ukraine and then negotiate for it to become an independent state, providing a buffer between pro-western Ukraine and Russia.

    As the region is already occupied by pro-Russian separatists, and has been in a state of war since 2014, it was believed it would offer little resistance.

    But the latest intelligence now has Ministry of Defence chiefs worried about a much larger incursion, raising fears of warfare engulfing cities and high civilian death tolls.

    They believe Mr Putin's troops are being positioned in line with his new objective, with armoured divisions set to head into neighbouring Belarus on exercise but now stationed within striking distance of Kiev.

    Last night a senior defence source said: 'We strongly believe [Putin's] preference is for a full invasion rather than a limited offensive. In a sense he might as well go for as much of Ukraine as he can get hold of because the penalties are just the same."

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-mass-border-British-defence-chiefs-warn.html

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    Here's a good read on the situation in Ukraine from the UK Secretary of State for Defence Ben Wallace
    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/an-article-by-the-defence-secretary-on-the-situation-in-ukraine
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    Wallace is visiting Australia this week (cough cough, Taiwan?)...

    The United Kingdom Secretary of State for Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Affairs and Minister for Women and Equalities the Rt Hon Elizabeth Truss MP and Secretary of State for Defence Rt Hon Ben Wallace MP will visit Australia for Australia-United Kingdom Ministerial Consultations (AUKMIN) on 21 January.

    Discussions will focus on strategic challenges and identify areas in which Australia and the United Kingdom can work to support an open, inclusive and resilient Indo-Pacific region where the sovereignty of all nations is respected.

    https://www.foreignminister.gov.au/...kingdom-ministerial-consultations-aukmin-2022
     
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    Ukraine should adopt scotched earth policy, break open the river banks, pump sea water and flood the wheat fields with salt water. Destroy the irrigation channels. Break open chernobyl and flood the plains, rivers and black sea with chernobyl waters. The only way to protect it is to first destroy it completely until it becomes nothing but a liability.
     
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    hahah
    Wouldn’t the population rather heel to Russia than destroy themselves? Sounds very Japanese to me :D
     
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    The Finns and the Swedes are not able to scramble fighter jets (although they have plenty), at best they are able to scramble eggs in these situations.

    It is funny - reminds me of that meme with the photo of the defense ministers of Sweden, Germany, Denmark, the Netherlands vs Russia's defense minister.
    Feminist-cancel culture societies are not able to defend themselves.
     
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    heartastack Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    they are doing their best mate

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    I'm feeling violated
     
  12. TreasureHunter

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    What do you mean by "take back Asia from the white people". Historically, China used to be much smaller.
    And there are very few white people in Asia anyway.

    The biggest tensions and conflicts that China has are with Asian countries: Philippines, India, Vietnam, Japan and of course - Taiwan, Tibet, Xinjiang.
     
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    Ukraine gets British anti-tank missiles (VIDEO)

    "Ukraine thanked Britain for a new delivery of weapons on Tuesday. Deputy Defense Minister Anatoly Petrenko said the supplies “will be used exclusively for defense purposes,” to protect troops and civilians against “any actions that could lead to escalation.”

    Local media reported that the shipment contained shoulder-fired missile systems known as NLAW. They are designed to destroy main battle tanks and other armored vehicles, and were jointly developed by Sweden and the UK."

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    https://www.rt.com/russia/546483-ukraine-british-anti-tank-missiles/


    What is next?

    Russia to supply Argentina with fighter jets and anti-ship missiles :D
     
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    the same kind of logic with the covid vaccine, booster of half portion is stronger and better than the full dose,
    The whole of nato can hardly beat Russia, with small Ukraine can win the battle against Russia LOL
    Russia is watchful and ready, if Ukraine started killing the Russian speakers, they will be totally annialated without mercy, this is what the west feared the most, ie the threat of more sanctions ???
    the outcome is already clear
    just like back in the day, when 10k soldiers were spared, some became body spare parts
    the news is really manipulated, waiting for Russia to attack ??? :rolleyes:. Russia will punish the oppressors.
     
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    What is a "non essential sexual activity"? What is essential? :D

    Can more than 2 people participate? :D

    If indoors it's not allowed, outdoor is fine, right? :D
     
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    I read about this 3 days ago, the British had been flying C17 non-stop round trips to Kyiv. There's probably 2 planes in the air at any one time. If they are shipping LAW rockets, they would have shipped half a million rockets by now.

    Here's one of them, and I didn't have to search, it's right there.
    https://fr24.com/RRR6899/2a8b21bf

     
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    A 400 lb health minister. Makes perfect sense.
     
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    ^
    Might be fake news.
     
  19. sgbuyer

    sgbuyer Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    The C17 is now flying over Denmark. :D

    The whole thing only 12kg, very light, even 14 year old girls can carry them... and use them.

     
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    Sounds like the Euro Queens Noblemen of the Protected Class are giving up on the mandates and narratives falling apart.

    Leave them in power as your rulers and just act like nothing happened these last few years please.

    All the threats they made and lives theyve ruined with a smile? Yeah just act like it never happened and count yourselves lucky.

    It was just a big accident oops! Haha we can all laugh now.

    I havent heard of any plans to locate the people who have lost everything so things can be made right. All the business owners that have lost their life savings, landlords that have lost epic sums of money, people that couldnt pay rent or lost jobs and now homeless on the streets with kids
    Im sure the governments will make it right with them. Just an accident.

    Hopefully they can track everyone down this has affected and fix it before they resign.
    I mean surely they will all resign after this eh?
     
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