2020 Collapse

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  1. alor

    alor Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    the idea was to stop BRI, since Xinjiang failed, they moved to take on Kazak, as the BRI after Xinjiang is Kazak
    MI6 wanted a repeat of Maidan, and US knew it month ahead, so it was very poorly organised and executed, we knew it already failed
    CSTO went in, its already game over!
    Afghan failed, Xinjiang failed, now Kazak also failed again
    BRI continue...
    the Russia/US-NATO talks in Geneva and Brussels next week, attention diversion failed lol
     
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    Look at this map and all will be clear.

    The new Yuan empire is in the making.

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  4. TreasureHunter

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    You are referring to the Chinese currency's next sphere of influence?

    You can include the eastern parts of Africa, parts of Latin-America.
     
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    sgbuyer Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Currency control is the anglo-saxon way. Chinese empire expand by territory and converting people.
     
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    Nah, it's universal. The Chinese were the first to invent fiat.
     
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    Historically, Chinese empire expand by "converting" people. That's why southern Chinese look different from the chinese in the north, because the south is mixed with original inhabitants, vietnamese, thai or malay stock, and not pure Han. The original Chinese is north of the yangtze river. The original cantonese people resemble north Vietnamese more than northern Chinese. A north vietnamese can go to China, don't speak and no one knows.

    A lot of conversion happened centuries ago but even today, conversion is happening with the Manchus, a lot of intermarriages and manchus are almost converted to Han.

    This is the reason why the Chinese empire is so successfully, in comparison to the Roman, Greek empire, because after the conversion is complete, there is no more trace left of previous ancestors or country.

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    That may be the case but currency control is as much a Chinese “thing” as it is in any western nation.
     
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    Yes, it's part of it, but there's more to it. The mistake that people think is China is the new USA or British Empire. No, the rules are different, and it's not about democracy vs communism. These are Western ideology.

    In a way, it's more like the Roman empire, the glory of "Rome".
     
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    Very interesting thing that you're saying. I am fascinated by Chinese history and the economy especially. Including the non-mainland Chinese communities in Singapore, Taiwan, Thailand, Malaysia etc.

    Please feel free to tell us more about this subject!

    Can you recommend a book specifically about the conversion-expansion? How this happened?

    Europeans would automatically call the conversion an "abusive assimilation", but my opinion is that quite often these assimilations are not abusive, but rather an influence, which is an "overlap" in the first phase,
    then later it becomes the new identity. Perhaps the American example is not the best one, but I always use that as a counter-example against the "abusive assimilation" narrative.

    I am very interested about how Chinese culture has spread and evolved. I am interested in ancient history and the last 2-3 centuries as well. The mainland and Southeast Asian communities and trade & trade routes as well. Everything!

    If you could recommend a good book by a good author, I'd be thankful!
     
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    Yes, it's a terrible mistake to confuse China with the western powers. I think the stereotypes for "imperialism" are the British- and French empires.

    There are tremendous cultural differences.

    Also: communism is not a cultural difference, it's an ideology. But, quite often the wrong perception comes from mixing communism with cultural characteristics.
     
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    There's no difference between China and Western powers (British and French empires). They are both controlled by elites. The only difference which I can see is China is ethnically more homogeneous, while Western powers are multiracial. This has big implications because to have status in a homogeneous empire, your race must be the correct one. It's not sufficient to just speak the language. The bloodline has to be checked.

    What Shiney said is correct, they are not ready. Empires can have many false starts before they are ready. The "EU" is a good example.
     
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    Interesting how Turkey is coping with currency devaluation/inflation: an original idea encouraging people to keep (not sell) their Lira

     
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    Elon Musk thinks:
    - there are not enough people, contrary to what most people think (common belief is that there are too many)
    - there are not enough people for labor
    - he expects a demographic implosion

     
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    Elon is correct.
     
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    Certainly correct about the AI risk.
     
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    Sometimes i like to call him Satoshi. Like a nickname ya know.
    For some reason he looks like his name should be Satoshi.
     
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    Deltacron is next - in the news, at least:
     

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