2020 Collapse

If they use their power to get out of wars and change the world for the better *Shrugs* sure I guess, why not?
Worth a shot.
Trumpian Empire. XD
 
Trump wanted to pull all but 250 troops from Syria, the Pentagon lied to him about troop numbers so he couldn't.
Probably not abandon all bases right away, but dramatically reduce numbers for sure, and overtime when knows, if peace breaks out whats the need?
 
sgbuyer said:
Haven't really looked into this but saw an article. Wow! Iran backs Azerbaijan while Russia backs Armenia?

https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/45...-support-accuses-Armenia-of-firing-on-Iranian
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/11/21/13-a72109
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To me it's hard to imagine that. Logically, the three should be all in one group.

Turkey doesn't have the best relations with Iran anyway.

For some reason (oil, gas, Turkey's support, Israel's support and the west's support), Azerbaijan seems gather sympathy from all around (even as far away as Pakistan).
 
TreasureHunter said:
To me it's hard to imagine that. Logically, the three should be all in one group.

Turkey doesn't have the best relations with Iran anyway.

For some reason (oil, gas, Turkey's support, Israel's support and the west's support), Azerbaijan seems gather sympathy from all around (even as far away as Pakistan).
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The Azeri vs Armenia is the real conflict that will that continue for a thousand years to come until either side becomes the other.

The "one group" that you're talking about is only a temporary arrangement due to an alliance between personalities (putin, erdogan and the supreme leader for the sake of own self-interest), a blip in history of only a couple dozens of years.

That's why I'm amazed that a lot of politicians think they can change history. The lifespan of any dictator is at most 100+ years old, once he is gone, history will resume. Over a thousand years history cannot be changed. Old feuds will be revived even a hundred years, or two hundred years later, three hundred or five hundred years later.

In the next 1000 years, the only thing that matters is Christianity, Islam and Paganism. Just as they existed a thousand years ago when Genghis Khan invaded Euroasia, they will exist in the next 1000 years. The globalists are pipe dreamers, they will not change anything and history will resume after their passing.
 
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it was the Ottoman killing Armenian in the past
within the Azerbaijan live Armenian, before their wars
Armenia is sandwiched by Azerbaijan
Azerbaijan is in the Centre of Iran, Turkey, Armenia,...etc
 
shinymetal said:
Trump wanted to pull all but 250 troops from Syria, the Pentagon lied to him about troop numbers so he couldn't.
Probably not abandon all bases right away, but dramatically reduce numbers for sure, and overtime when knows, if peace breaks out whats the need?
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once there is a complete pull out, there is no going back, so they wanted to always go back under the pretext, of destroying terrorists
when there is a permanent foot hold there, the terrorist IS, exploded in numbers
talking peace by wars maker, always come in peace and left the wars for peace ...> they always left behind WARS
 
Trump pullback is to reduce the footprint. Soldiers on the ground are basically sitting duck. Modern war is fought using pathogen and drones.
 
the empty promise to keep the bases empty
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sgbuyer said:
The Azeri vs Armenia is the real conflict that will that continue for a thousand years to come until either side becomes the other.

The "one group" that you're talking about is only a temporary arrangement due to an alliance between personalities (putin, erdogan and the supreme leader for the sake of own self-interest), a blip in history of only a couple dozens of years.

That's why I'm amazed that a lot of politicians think they can change history. The lifespan of any dictator is at most 100+ years old, once he is gone, history will resume. Over a thousand years history cannot be changed. Old feuds will be revived even a hundred years, or two hundred years later, three hundred or five hundred years later.

In the next 1000 years, the only thing that matters is Christianity, Islam and Paganism. Just as they existed a thousand years ago when Genghis Khan invaded Euroasia, they will exist in the next 1000 years. The globalists are pipe dreamers, they will not change anything and history will resume after their passing.
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The new trend today is the neo-communism pumped by anti-traditional liberal-socialists. Europe and the USA are committing suicide.

It's a new form of paganism: no religion, no law, no tradition, no nations... John Lennon would love it.

But as naive as these people are, they are committing cultural-, social-, national-, economic suicide. The west is subverting itself. Several ancient civilizations did this until they collapsed.
The EU is subverting everything Europe once was. And they can't grasp what's going wrong. EVERYTHING.

"The roaring twenties"... this has already happened and has lead to a crisis.

Nothing is sacred, nothing is respected, no rules, no respect, no value added.
Waste, amorality, anarchy, chaos, entitlement, greed, violence.

Strong cultures and religions are prevailing those that undermine themselves. Some in the west believe the rest of the world is against them or is evil. I see this more like a self-undermining.
 
TreasureHunter said:
The new trend today is the neo-communism pumped by anti-traditional liberal-socialists. Europe and the USA are committing suicide.

It's a new form of paganism: no religion, no law, no tradition, no nations... John Lennon would love it.

But as naive as these people are, they are committing cultural-, social-, national-, economic suicide. The west is subverting itself. Several ancient civilizations did this until they collapsed.
The EU is subverting everything Europe once was. And they can't grasp what's going wrong. EVERYTHING.

"The roaring twenties"... this has already happened and has lead to a crisis.

Nothing is sacred, nothing is respected, no rules, no respect, no value added.
Waste, amorality, anarchy, chaos, entitlement, greed, violence.

Strong cultures and religions are prevailing those that undermine themselves. Some in the west believe the rest of the world is against them or is evil. I see this more like a self-undermining.
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This is what amazes me. It's all gotten much worse over Drumphs term yet people still seem to think hes gonna change it.
Hes doing the job hes supposed to do in being the puppet boy. He doesnt have the courage or character to do anything of substance and hes held up as a hero for some reason.
His exponential spending and destruction of america is somehow considered good.
Men like them are the status quo and the central bankers need them more than we do.
 
TreasureHunter said:
We already have sub-1800$ gold:

I see this go down to the lower 1700's...
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Maybe people are selling gold to buy Tesla and Bitcoin? I just realised that gold in AUD has almost gotten back to March lows! Bottom signal?

Drumphs has done more than most Americans have done. A lot of the lawyers fighting for him are earning fees and royalties from future book sales and speeches. All is making money from it. If I'd know him personally, I'd definitely ask him to give up this thankless job.
 
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"Russia wants to ban social media sites discriminating against Russian news outlets"

"Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube at risk of getting blocked in Russia for "discriminating" against Russian news sites like Russia Today, RIA Novosti, and Crimea 24.

The Russian government is working on a new law to block foreign social media sites inside Russia's territory as repercussions for "discriminating" against Russian news outlets operating abroad.

Sites like Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube are specifically mentioned in "explanatory notes" (Word document) accompanying the new draft bill, submitted last week for debate in the Russian Duma (state parliament).

Russian lawmakers say that since April 2020, state authorities had received complaints from editors of Russian news sites that had their social media accounts censored on the aforementioned sites.

"Media outlets such as Russia Today, RIA Novosti, Crimea 24 were censored. In total, about 20 acts of discrimination were recorded," Russian lawmakers said.

The acts of discrimination referenced in the draft bill's notes refers to rules introduced at Twitter and Facebook this year, and at YouTube in 2018.

The three sites have been showing special labels on the profiles of state-affiliated news agencies and have been reducing their visibility on their sites by removing their content from recommendation algorithms."

[...]

FULL ARTICLE:
https://www.zdnet.com/article/russi...-discriminating-against-russian-news-outlets/
 
sgbuyer said:
I was thinking for couple of days why would you announce a strike in advance? :confused: Well, now we know, it's a smoke screen to flush them out.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-55105934
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Indeed. It's rhetoric, a power game, blackmail.
It's like when you threaten to hit someone so that you scare them specifically because you could never fight them, because they are stronger.
But if the bigger, stronger bully gets scared of you, then you won.

David vs Goliath :D
 
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