NBN, Which Team has the best plan for the future ?i

How is copper even a plan?

The main reason for Telstra selling the copper network to NBNCo was that their own engineers said it was a disintegrating heap of junk.
 
To spend billions of dollars to build a major piece of national infrastructure that just about meets demand today, but doesn't allow for any significant growth in that demand over the next 10 or 20 years, without large upgrade costs, is incredibly short-sighted," he said.
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Leaves the stage set for private investment if as he says the demand will increase.
 
mmm....shiney! said:
To spend billions of dollars to build a major piece of national infrastructure that just about meets demand today, but doesn't allow for any significant growth in that demand over the next 10 or 20 years, without large upgrade costs, is incredibly short-sighted," he said.
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Leaves the stage set for private investment if as he says the demand will increase.
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Why wasn't it already done then?

Edit: actually, the Libs introduced legislation to halt competition to Turnbull's Multi Technology Mix debacle. It seems they gave NBN Co. a monopoly: https://www.telstrawholesale.com.au/nbn/overview/copper-cease-sale.html




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Copper can achieve excellent speed (100MbPS) over short distances. Therein lays the catch as FTTN still requires reasonably long copper lengths, shitty joints sitting in Telstra water pits and not to mention the ugly node boxes that people end up with on their front lawns.
So, enter FTTdp.
NBN has quietly been trialling this new technology and achieving some good results with it. It is cheap, fast to deploy, does not require expensive, ugly, power draining nodes on street corners and it unobtrusive. Of course it has been written off by the Luddites in the Liberal party and Shorten had nothing but a blank look when he was asked about it but for now, it is looking like a pretty good compromise.

http://www.itnews.com.au/news/nbn-could-flip-300000-premises-from-fttn-to-fttdp--417081
 
KiwiGreg said:
Copper can achieve excellent speed (100MbPS) over short distances. Therein lays the catch as FTTN still requires reasonably long copper lengths, shitty joints sitting in Telstra water pits and not to mention the ugly node boxes that people end up with on their front lawns.
So, enter FTTdp.
NBN has quietly been trialling this new technology and achieving some good results with it. It is cheap, fast to deploy, does not require expensive, ugly, power draining nodes on street corners and it unobtrusive. Of course it has been written off by the Luddites in the Liberal party and Shorten had nothing but a blank look when he was asked about it but for now, it is looking like a pretty good compromise.

http://www.itnews.com.au/news/nbn-could-flip-300000-premises-from-fttn-to-fttdp--417081
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That's a great idea, but the NBN is now a political football and innovative solutions have little chance of making inroads in such an environment where each team is looking to score political points. Any real innovation in this country, whether it is related to Internet delivery or something else entirely, will be relentlessly attacked by both government and incumbent industries. Turnbull's idea of innovation is a non-disruptive form of innovation that doesn't rock the boat and doesn't threaten the party either politically or by weakening the party's funding base of existing donors.
 
Best plan?

IMNHO wireless!

I have a sneaking suspicion that by the time this NBN rubbish idea is complete, at a cost of 100 BILLION, it will be well and truly overtaken by new wireless technology.

OC
 
Big A.D. said:
How is copper even a plan?
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It's not. It's bullshit.
Anyone who votes for the Liberals because they think their NBN plan has any merit what so ever is in dire need of some technical education.
 
All or most of the contracts were signed by the time it all landed in the LNP's lap!

Not a lot they could do about it except plow on to the end.

OC
 
SilverDJ said:
Big A.D. said:
How is copper even a plan?
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It's not. It's bullshit.
Anyone who votes for the Liberals because they think their NBN plan has any merit what so ever is in dire need of some technical education.
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And an education in competition. Not only in terms of the technology mix forced upon us and the NBN Co. monopoly, but also in terms of global economic competition with nations that are more business friendly and more focused on true economic growth.
 
But Mr Turnbull, who launched the revamped NBN plan as federal communications minister, told ABC TV earlier this week the original NBN plan had been "a complete failure" and the network now boasted just over one million users.
Despite a drop in download speeds under the new NBN, Mr Turnbull said most internet users were signing up to 25 megabit-per-second connections or less rather "so the reality is that the service is meeting the demand of the customers".
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Bit of doublethink there Mal.
 
JulieW said:
But Mr Turnbull, who launched the revamped NBN plan as federal communications minister, told ABC TV earlier this week the original NBN plan had been "a complete failure" and the network now boasted just over one million users.
Despite a drop in download speeds under the new NBN, Mr Turnbull said most internet users were signing up to 25 megabit-per-second connections or less rather "so the reality is that the service is meeting the demand of the customers".
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Bit of doublethink there Mal.
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He's spouting absolute tripe.
 
OC and others promoting wireless and satellite etc. The devil is in the detail. At the end of the day, the signal must end up in a terrestrial path for backhaul and for that, nothing beats fibre! Wireless can be affected by weather, terrain, has capacity issues and if you have ever seen the kale chomping do-gooders protesting about having cell towers near their local school/hot yoga club/wherever (while at the same time bitching about coverage and call drop outs on their latest iPhone), imagine the fuss that they would make when big arse cell towers start cropping up all over the show for NBN. Right now there is no technology either available or even in dreams that is better or faster than fibre at the speed of light.
 
Wireless is fine until you run up against the limits of physics and can't shove any more bytes through the limited amount of radio spectrum that exists.

Satellites are also fine, provided you don't need to use VoIP, video calling apps like Skype or anything else that requires low latency.
 
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