Thanks for the input and glad to see you back comeaux, I just started in the last month or so getting into the gold pandas and now it has become addictive. I am mostly getting the 1/10 oz when I can find good deals but the 1/4 oz seem to be the best prices generally, I have nt seen much go for melt value except maybe some really damaged looking stuff but i did get a good deal on a 1/10 and 1/4 1986 proof set for $600 they were not described as proof and bad pictures , they look great and should grade at least 68s. It seems like the 80s era stuff is cheap and the 1998 seems to be extremely expensive even though there are quite a few for sale. Any other input on what dates might be desirable here , there or in China or possible sleepers would be appreciated.