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SKULL
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Mmm, seems we are ALL going to be blessed with, as the saying goes, " to live in interesting times " 
GOLD & SILVER are breaking out, just as the US bond market is setting up for disaster, because foreigners are now net SELLERS of UST & buyers of Gold. Since the early 2010's foreigner were just not buying UST. That they are NET SELLERS is a Debt Spiral that the USA CANNOT spend it way out of
Gold has now surpassed the amount of foreign holdings of UST. I don't think the Market & People in General have yet to fully realize the implications of this. UST are now only being purchased within the US. The USA is creating the Fiat Currency to buy it's own Debt because NO ONE else want to buy UST
Let the Implications of that sink in
The USA's addiction to Deficit Spending is Accelerating. Debt is Spiraling into figures that are not just unbelievable, they are Totally unsustainable but the ADDICT is hooked & the spending will continue to increase.
When the FED is forced to LOWER interest rates, the Chaos will begin. Markets will initially move higher with the lower interest rates spurring them on, but it's a false move. The rise & rise of Gold & Silver is telling u all u need too know. The Government in the USA ( the worlds largest economy ) is now out OUT OF CONTROL & soon, as the saying goes, " it will be time to pay the Piper " for the DECADES of DEBT/DEFICITS that are soon to becoming Due ( the time frame could still be a few years, but it's coming )
This could get VERY UGLY if conflict/violence breaks out
Just my View/Opinion, but all the signs of a Falling/Failing Empire are plain to see
GOLD & SILVER are breaking out, just as the US bond market is setting up for disaster, because foreigners are now net SELLERS of UST & buyers of Gold. Since the early 2010's foreigner were just not buying UST. That they are NET SELLERS is a Debt Spiral that the USA CANNOT spend it way out of
Gold has now surpassed the amount of foreign holdings of UST. I don't think the Market & People in General have yet to fully realize the implications of this. UST are now only being purchased within the US. The USA is creating the Fiat Currency to buy it's own Debt because NO ONE else want to buy UST
Let the Implications of that sink in
The USA's addiction to Deficit Spending is Accelerating. Debt is Spiraling into figures that are not just unbelievable, they are Totally unsustainable but the ADDICT is hooked & the spending will continue to increase.When the FED is forced to LOWER interest rates, the Chaos will begin. Markets will initially move higher with the lower interest rates spurring them on, but it's a false move. The rise & rise of Gold & Silver is telling u all u need too know. The Government in the USA ( the worlds largest economy ) is now out OUT OF CONTROL & soon, as the saying goes, " it will be time to pay the Piper " for the DECADES of DEBT/DEFICITS that are soon to becoming Due ( the time frame could still be a few years, but it's coming )
This could get VERY UGLY if conflict/violence breaks out
Just my View/Opinion, but all the signs of a Falling/Failing Empire are plain to see
It won't spiral.
USTs are one tool used to control interest rates. They don't function to provide spending capacity, that's the job of The Fed.
And yes, while the US executive level of government is out of control it's got nothing to do with treasury securities, interest rates, deficit spending or whatever else you're alluding to.
The US has a social crisis (and is on the nose globally) that the current President is flaming with his unilateral policy initiatives.
Deficits are immaterial.
USTs are one tool used to control interest rates. They don't function to provide spending capacity, that's the job of The Fed.
And yes, while the US executive level of government is out of control it's got nothing to do with treasury securities, interest rates, deficit spending or whatever else you're alluding to.
The US has a social crisis (and is on the nose globally) that the current President is flaming with his unilateral policy initiatives.
Deficits are immaterial.
SKULL
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Please yourself, I understand your response is a personality thing, I'm just here to counter the BS narrative floating around.
SKULL
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Ahh, so u see urself as the " keeper of the truth".
You say it in your own words:- " I'm just here to " so you are the 1.
The provider of Wisdom to us that are uniformed or mislead.
Careful your Egotistical Narcissism personality disorder is showing
Have u EVER had the thought that, just maybe, for a moment, that someone else may present a piece of factual evidence that disproves the NARRATIVE in ur mind that u are always 100% right, that maybe, just 1 time, u are actually wrong ?
( ahh, my GOD, never )Oh I jest, for u know in your own mind that all others are inferior of thought & u are here to correct us all & to bestow upon us your vast wisdom & knowledge that we will never attain.
Well FUCK ME. They actually let u be an " administrator " & get away with this crap. Your position should hold u to a higher standard than letting you spout & profess your vision that you are the 1 to " COUNTER THE BS NARRATIVE FLOATING AROUND "
Who the fuck gave u the authority to determine what is " BS NARRATIVE " & who gave you the wisdom/knowledge to inform us of our wrongful thoughts, when we don't have the right to " IGNORE " you.
So to you I say " FUCK OFF "
Ok, have a go then. What's your evidence that proves I'm wrong?
No one has given me any authority, but anyone who understands how the modern monetary system works in a nation where the government has a monopoly on the issuance of fiat currency also understands that the "decades of debt/deficit" is not a prelude to collapse. To suggest otherwise is to float a BS narrative. Unless of course you can provide evidence to the contrary.
SKULL
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don't listen to mmm.....shiney! He's just proved himself to be FULL of shit & wind.
I have in past posting:- provided statements, posted articles, provided links to articles & links to YT vids with interviews on Monetary/Financial/banking/Government Policy:- mmm.....shiney! response is to just dismiss everything because " HE KNOWS BETTER " or saying he wouldn't waste his time because " HE KNOWS BETTER "
So mmm.....shiney! is so ALL KNOWING that his thoughts on ANY ISSUE are his " SPOKEN GOSPEL " that shall not be questioned.
As I've said previously " he's full of shit & wind " & so Egotistical/Narcissistic that nothing said or presented will be given any consideration because he believes he is the proclaimer of the Monetary/Financial/banking/Government Policy GOSPEL
All I can say to mmm.....shiney! is to " FUCK OFF " because I don't have the option to ignore him
( but he likes to keep poking at me 
)
The articles etc you have cited are wrong.
The debt and deficit spending are a strength of the modern monetary system rather than a weakness because the government can never default unless by choice because they are not revenue constrained. Something you have not disproven.
You and those you choose to follow for advice are simply wrong. And no matter how many times you fall back on ad hominem that won't change. Hence why you are simply parroting a a BS narrative.
The debt and deficit spending are a strength of the modern monetary system rather than a weakness because the government can never default unless by choice because they are not revenue constrained. Something you have not disproven.
You and those you choose to follow for advice are simply wrong. And no matter how many times you fall back on ad hominem that won't change. Hence why you are simply parroting a a BS narrative.
There's a lot of erroneous information out there and it's mainly because people don't understand that unlike families or businesses, the government can't go broke.
SKULL
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see u PROVE my point. U just can't leave it alone. U have to convince that I'm wrong - making u right.Why are they wrong ? Seems they are wrong because of ur all Knowledgeable Proclamation ! Who made u Master of all Knowledge ?
That's the funniest/stupidest comment I have heard in YEARS ! Are u Honestly stating that all thought-out the history all of the GOVERNMENTS that have ruled Countries & Empires & that all of them that failed, not because they went Broke/Bankrupt, but for always some other reason ? The PERFECT example is the Government of Weimar Germany that spent itself into oblivion
but a new Government emerged & Germany now has a Gov. That doesn't prove that the Gov of Weimar Germany didn't go broke Fuck off. Just take a look at Russia 1998 " The Russian financial crisis (also called the ruble crisis or the Russian flu) began in Russia on 17 August 1998. It resulted in the Russian government and the Russian Central Bank devaluing the ruble and defaulting on its debt ":- Defaulting on ur Debt that's Bankruptcy & are u telling me that the Russian Gov couldn't print it's own MONEY ?
AHH, I think that the GOVERNMENT of Weimar Germany " WENT BROKE " just like the Government of the USA is going to go " BROKE " when their Debt & Money printing Spirals them into Oblivion
Ohh yes, a new Gov will emerge/form & u can say " see there is still a Gov. But that's a Gov that emerges from the Bankruptcy of the previous Gov.
I will listen to or read anything u post the " PROVES " that there is a Government that " Spent it's way out of Debt ". Not some Spending & Austerity as well. I want u to provide proof that there is a Government that " Borrowed & Spent " it's way out of DEBT
:- because it's never happened
For all the reasons I've stated previously.
That's the funniest/stupidest comment I have heard in YEARS ! Are u Honestly stating that all thought-out the history all of the GOVERNMENTS that have ruled Countries & Empires & that all of them that failed, not because they went Broke/Bankrupt, but for always some other reason ? The PERFECT example is the Government of Weimar Germany that spent itself into oblivion
A perfect example of the BS narrative that gets floated around continuously despite the fact that it's not true.
The Weimar Republic collapsed because Germany was ravaged by war. Demand exceeded the productive capacity of the nation creating shortages of goods and driving up inflation. A more recent example was Zimbabwe. In both cases it wan't money printing that led to the collapse of their currency systems it was the collapse of their society and/or economy that led to a loss of productivity and the resulting hyperinflation that followed as the governments tried to reduce demand.
As far as Russia goes it had the capacity to meet its debt obligations but was prevented in doing so by Western sanctions. It had absolutely nothing to do with an inability to pay as Russia had the funds.
Australia 2023/2024 recorded a surplus of $15.8 billion. Thankfully the government is forecasting a deficit for the current financial year.
But you're completely missing the point. Debt is not an issue, it's a feature of modern monetary systems. Every $ that the government is in debt is a $ that the real economy is in surplus. So if we look at the budget surplus in Oz in 2023/2024, that $15 billion was paid for by our savings, it wasn't achieved through the savings of the government.
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Another reason the US won't collapse is because they will have another financial system ready that the stupid broke bankrupt sheeple will willingly accept out of sheer pain.
The same fks will be running it too!
The same fks will be running it too!
They just roll out another acronym.
By collapse I mean an Armageddon type scenario like Mad Max and i dont expect that to happen. I dont believe it would ever go that far because that would mean a TOTAL loss of power.
A loaf of bread costing $20 USD? I expect to see some crazy prices coming in the future and all i can do is save save save in silver and gold (that im too attached to and i wouldnt sell).
Everything we are seeing is either "just one big accident and no one could have seen it coming", or its being done on purpose by evil people (aliens?) for their own benefit.
I dont think they are ignorant of anything and I dont give ignorance any pass here. There's just too much history and who doesnt have Google.
I think its all on purpose and its gonna be really bad for most sheeple except the types like us.
My family and i went through the wringer in 09, lost my job, WAY too much debt, lost 2 houses and everything I couldnt fit inside a Skoolie that i had built and we hit the fkn road before bus living or tiny homes were even a thing but that was a whole new nightmare and another story.
Ruined my credit of course, went from 120k a year to $12 an hour changing tires and oil and had to suck it up and move on.
It was a crash course to off grid and bus living that really opened our eyes.
Like a total kick in the balls, but thats fkn life.
You get back up and keep driving on.
It will feel like a total collapse to many, they will lie awake at night and cry and wonder what they did wrong and think about what they've lost, but some of them will come out stronger from it and rebuild something much greater.
Hard times do make stronger men and thats a fact, and we all know this as men.
For everything I went through back then. The sleepless nights, the questioning, the hand wringing and the anger i felt at myself for being such a complete failure at my finances. I had put my entire family at such risk and now we are homeless living in a bus!!!
It fueled me and gave me a new purpose and i wouldn't change anything.
I hope the best for everyone and especially the ignorant masses.
I was once one of them.
This isnt the end of anything. Its the beginning of whatever is coming. The world will keep turning and our jobs as men are to keep pushing for our families and for ourselves.
Whatever it takes.
A loaf of bread costing $20 USD? I expect to see some crazy prices coming in the future and all i can do is save save save in silver and gold (that im too attached to and i wouldnt sell).
Everything we are seeing is either "just one big accident and no one could have seen it coming", or its being done on purpose by evil people (aliens?) for their own benefit.
I dont think they are ignorant of anything and I dont give ignorance any pass here. There's just too much history and who doesnt have Google.
I think its all on purpose and its gonna be really bad for most sheeple except the types like us.
My family and i went through the wringer in 09, lost my job, WAY too much debt, lost 2 houses and everything I couldnt fit inside a Skoolie that i had built and we hit the fkn road before bus living or tiny homes were even a thing but that was a whole new nightmare and another story.
Ruined my credit of course, went from 120k a year to $12 an hour changing tires and oil and had to suck it up and move on.
It was a crash course to off grid and bus living that really opened our eyes.
Like a total kick in the balls, but thats fkn life.
You get back up and keep driving on.
It will feel like a total collapse to many, they will lie awake at night and cry and wonder what they did wrong and think about what they've lost, but some of them will come out stronger from it and rebuild something much greater.
Hard times do make stronger men and thats a fact, and we all know this as men.
For everything I went through back then. The sleepless nights, the questioning, the hand wringing and the anger i felt at myself for being such a complete failure at my finances. I had put my entire family at such risk and now we are homeless living in a bus!!!
It fueled me and gave me a new purpose and i wouldn't change anything.
I hope the best for everyone and especially the ignorant masses.
I was once one of them.
This isnt the end of anything. Its the beginning of whatever is coming. The world will keep turning and our jobs as men are to keep pushing for our families and for ourselves.
Whatever it takes.
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betterinvestmentthanshare
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Hmmmmmm,
Central Bank can’t go broke (the greatest scam in history) but it’s true.
it’s so simple that it’s very hard to comprehend because of how we are programmed.
To put it in simple terms
The government can make us rich and send us broke……government policies……government regulation…….global terms and trades.
Economic cycles…..boom and bust.
Some of us place our bets (investment) with the knowledge we have to gain wealth. Working is a mugs game but we all have to start somewhere.
The Marjory have no clue they play the lucky dip, sometimes win, more so lose.
I’m no longer in that game, until that game starts to work in my favour again…..not till the end of this decade anyway.
Central Bank can’t go broke (the greatest scam in history) but it’s true.
it’s so simple that it’s very hard to comprehend because of how we are programmed.
To put it in simple terms
The government can make us rich and send us broke……government policies……government regulation…….global terms and trades.
Economic cycles…..boom and bust.
Some of us place our bets (investment) with the knowledge we have to gain wealth. Working is a mugs game but we all have to start somewhere.
The Marjory have no clue they play the lucky dip, sometimes win, more so lose.
I’m no longer in that game, until that game starts to work in my favour again…..not till the end of this decade anyway.
betterinvestmentthanshare
Well-Known Member
But I understand Skull, he knows something is not right, he knows things are getting worse for the majority with no resolution in the near term and with the best of his knowledge from researching and experience he is betting on PM’s.
Here is food for thought.
1971 gold Oz was approx $31aud
2025 gold Oz is $5444aud
Over 17300% increase
Averaging a staggering 320% per year
Here is food for thought.
1971 gold Oz was approx $31aud
2025 gold Oz is $5444aud
Over 17300% increase
Averaging a staggering 320% per year
betterinvestmentthanshare
Well-Known Member
I found this and hope it explains things a bit better
The Greatest Scam On Earth
https://www.afr.com/markets/debt-markets/the-reserve-bank-can-never-go-broke-20221104-p5bvp8
The Greatest Scam On Earth
https://www.afr.com/markets/debt-markets/the-reserve-bank-can-never-go-broke-20221104-p5bvp8
betterinvestmentthanshare
Well-Known Member
And it’s a unsustainable model for the majority until a reset then it all starts all over again
It's not unsustainable. If a government can print money at will then it can fund at will. Mainstream media doesn't get that. It's not a scam.
Edit to add: the link is behind a paywall.
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