Andrew Maguire expose not what you think

If Maguire is a fake then he was certainly put there to discredit the likes of GATA, KWN and Max Keiser etc. Thus if he is a fake shill, it wouldn't discredit those who promoted him IMO.
 
Jeff Christian has been a government hack for years saying there is no manipulation in the metal markets. Clearly Goldman's recent scam of aluminum rigging, The Libor scam and JPM fine of $13 Billion should not detract us (the sheeple) from Jeff Christian's comments that in contrast to every market being rigged by the Fed and banks, gold and silver markets are squeaky clean. I don't care if Andrew is yet another crook in this arena of crooks and thieves. This does not detract from the fact that massive paper gold and silver sales occur with regular occurrence, in thin trading and are designed to drive the prices down. No true seller would sell massive amounts (>60T) of gold in 1 hit aiming to drive prices down and get less for his asset. Why are we never told who these big sellers are ? I remain convinced that the Fed and big banks supported by the main governments of the West are manipulating markets and as part of that are keeping metals suppressed. They did this in the 1960s in the London Gold Pool why question this now. Is the world much more transparent and governments and banks more honest. Work it out yourself.
 
salty lemon said:
If Maguire is a fake then he was certainly put there to discredit the likes of GATA, KWN and Max Keiser etc. Thus if he is a fake shill, it wouldn't discredit those who promoted him IMO.
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That is the kind of mindset that discredits those who favor gold as an investment. Say what you wrote to any normal person and they will think you are a lunatic. Everything is not a conspiracy. Do the banksters manipulate gold? Of course, but they do so in both directions to make a fortune. You need to get away from the conspiracy nuts, they will only cause you aggravation.

What is the goal of the web sites/people you listed? To make money off of people like you. The sooner you understand that, the sooner you will begin to recognize that their goal is to keep you hooked, not to help you. I still read a few interviews on KWN, but only the credible people like Fleckenstein, Yamada, etc. The rest of the interviewees are like used car salesmen. One time I watched Murphy debate Christianson and Murphy sounded like a hysterical idiot. Christianson wiped the floor with Murphy. Is Kaiser still pimping his silver rounds? You can waste a lot of time listening to those people and in the end you will be less informed than when you started. Buy pms for protection from fiat currency devaluation period. The rest is noise that will waste your time and energy.
 
dccpa said:
salty lemon said:
If Maguire is a fake then he was certainly put there to discredit the likes of GATA, KWN and Max Keiser etc. Thus if he is a fake shill, it wouldn't discredit those who promoted him IMO.
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That is the kind of mindset that discredits those who favor gold as an investment. Say what you wrote to any normal person and they will think you are a lunatic. Everything is not a conspiracy. Do the banksters manipulate gold? Of course, but they do so in both directions to make a fortune. You need to get away from the conspiracy nuts, they will only cause you aggravation.

What is the goal of the web sites/people you listed? To make money off of people like you. The sooner you understand that, the sooner you will begin to recognize that their goal is to keep you hooked, not to help you. I still read a few interviews on KWN, but only the credible people like Fleckenstein, Yamada, etc. The rest of the interviewees are like used car salesmen. One time I watched Murphy debate Christianson and Murphy sounded like a hysterical idiot. Christianson wiped the floor with Murphy. Is Kaiser still pimping his silver rounds? You can waste a lot of time listening to those people and in the end you will be less informed than when you started. Buy pms for protection from fiat currency devaluation period. The rest is noise that will waste your time and energy.
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"Everything is not a conspiracy" when I hear those words I tune out :)
 
Ronnie 666 said:
Jeff Christian has been a government hack for years saying there is no manipulation in the metal markets. Clearly Goldman's recent scam of aluminum rigging, The Libor scam and JPM fine of $13 Billion should not detract us (the sheeple) from Jeff Christian's comments that in contrast to every market being rigged by the Fed and banks, gold and silver markets are squeaky clean. I don't care if Andrew is yet another crook in this arena of crooks and thieves. This does not detract from the fact that massive paper gold and silver sales occur with regular occurrence, in thin trading and are designed to drive the prices down. No true seller would sell massive amounts (>60T) of gold in 1 hit aiming to drive prices down and get less for his asset. Why are we never told who these big sellers are ? I remain convinced that the Fed and big banks supported by the main governments of the West are manipulating markets and as part of that are keeping metals suppressed. They did this in the 1960s in the London Gold Pool why question this now. Is the world much more transparent and governments and banks more honest. Work it out yourself.
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only the dum asses around here reckon there's no manipulation :lol:
 
willrocks said:
grinners said:
I am a big fan of Jeff Christian.
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You and Court Jester
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He gives a fair appraisal of metals IMO and has been undoubtedly more accurate about metals over the last 4 years than anyone else I have known about.

A lot of people on here would do very well to have a read of his book:

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@BB - funnily enough I was reading that article about 15 minutes ago. I've long thought, as many do, KW "News" is more "infomercial" than news. Anyone remember Maguire's car accident a few years ago, right after some supposed "leak" if I remember rightly.

I take Christian more seriously.
 
If the info came from an x wife anythings possible.

Let's see what the man himself has to say, I hear he is preparing a statement.
 
forget all their stories, just get the metals, silver first before its taxed, then later on gold :)
 
Bullion Baron said:
Ronnie 666 said:
His side of the story
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=79fcAThOW0U
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Any chance of a guide to where in that clip it is without listening through the whole thing? Is Andrew Maguire on the recording or just more third hand information?
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Second half. He does not deny that he did not work for G-S but does not address why he did not rectify the error ? Needless to say his comments on the gold and silver market make more sense to me than do the ramblings if the shill Jeff Christian. This whole thing smacks of a set up like the case of Dominique Strauss-Kahn. No one could deny that he had sex with the "maid" but it was a set up to brand him as a rapist, lock him up in jail and deny him the presidency of the IMF. Of course he liked a bit of "slap and tickle" and they used that to completely discredit him. When they proved the set up no one was interested especially the press. Clearly, Andrew is very unlikely to be canonized in the near future but that does not mean he is wrong on the goings on in the bullion trade. My impression, which by the way has no value, is that he is right.
 
Ummm... that link took me to an SD Bullion webcast with Alisdair MacLeod... not Andrew McGuire. Listened to the whole thing... however no mention of Andrew McGuire. Did I miss something?



Ronnie 666 said:
Bullion Baron said:
Ronnie 666 said:
His side of the story
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=79fcAThOW0U
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Any chance of a guide to where in that clip it is without listening through the whole thing? Is Andrew Maguire on the recording or just more third hand information?
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Second half. He does not deny that he did not work for G-S but does not address why he did not rectify the error ? Needless to say his comments on the gold and silver market make more sense to me than do the ramblings if the shill Jeff Christian. This whole thing smacks of a set up like the case of Dominique Strauss-Kahn. No one could deny that he had sex with the "maid" but it was a set up to brand him as a rapist, lock him up in jail and deny him the presidency of the IMF. Of course he liked a bit of "slap and tickle" and they used that to completely discredit him. When they proved the set up no one was interested especially the press. Clearly, Andrew is very unlikely to be canonized in the near future but that does not mean he is wrong on the goings on in the bullion trade. My impression, which by the way has no value, is that he is right.
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