Same but that's mainly because I want to see: An Australian senator hiding in an Ecuadorian embassy in the UK because he is afraid if he leaves he will be extradited to Sweden, to answer Sexual Assault charges, who will then promptly hand him over to the US so they can 'interrogate' him about a series of diplomatic cables that an organisation that he fronts released causing a series of diplomatic incidents resulting in his own country refusing to state that they wouldn't do the same a Sweden and hand him over to the US. Seriously! Most movies have less convoluted plots.
"I'm going to vote for The Wikileaks Party! big_smile Same smile but that's mainly because I want to see:" Amazing, and to think millions around the world have died to gain and keep the right to vote. What a waste!
No need to get 'strop'py mate. Liberal party I think has a good team but not so good leader. (But no way Turnbull as who wants an ex banker) Rudd I think is a capable leader but surrounded by dopes. No wonder he is forced to be a bit autocratic at times. Sorry that Lindsay Tanner went. But last night on Q&A Rudd was outright wrong on gay marriage from a Christian perspective, and would have been better to take the libertarian route if he wanted to pursue the issue further whilst espousing Christianity ie rights of 'couples' when breakup occurs for equity/civil unions etc. His slave argument is just beyond credible - the advancement of Christianity over world wide established slave practices prevailed in time, in the meantime there was a freedom jubilee year in the OldT. A slave trader once repented and he wrote Amazing Grace, Lincoln and countless others to much later on Martin Luther King was a Baptist preacher etc. Stupidly Rudd is preaching a politicised Christianity to be accepted by the masses. Remember that there are examples of slaves (an asset) treated better than fellow citizens during hard times - the risk of slave owner being poisoned tended to modify bad behaviour in household situations as well. For those who have read heathen Homer - being tied up and left to die having your entire genitals/groin area cut out/off was spoken of as a retribution of the day. If the OldT taught that a righteous man considers the life of his beast(ie oxen), how much moreso human servants in very different and difficult times, with freedom in the Jubilee. Yes there were barbaric practices against slaves especially those death camps working for the conquering nations, but household slaves/servants in better homes became part of the family in many cases, choosing to become a voluntary lifelong servant over freedom (without the unemployment benefits) was common place. But yeah slavery in govt camps/mines was a one way ticket to death. Overall treatment of women slaves obviously not good as well. But Christianity taught good treatment for all slaves, and for those who would be a part of the resurrection, it would especially be to the Christian slave owner's shame if they were ill treated. The libertarian route from a Christian perspective is we live in a society where God gave us all a freewill, and sometimes we need to agree to disagree. Rather than have a 'collective' politically correct state belief taught from childcare, and drummed by media, we agree to disagree. Laws based around equity for all that maximises personal liberty, but not at the expense of personal accountability towards others, with appropriate punishment. If people choose to live as in Sodom so be it, just don't force others to live there. And if there is a God(and there is), He is quite capable of bringing judgement upon the place. If I choose not to live that way, don't throw your condoms filled with whatever at me. And don't expect me to call your gay civil union, marriage in the Christian sense. We can agree to disagree, yet fairness and liberty can still apply to both our lives. Why should you need my or my church's approval anyway? I don't need yours for the choices I make. Or is your God given conscience causing you anxiety on the path to repent? Politically correct 'acceptance' will not heal spiritual injuries. So Rudd has just done a very stupid thing. I really can't see him doing any better than Julia now. http://www.reformedreader.org/rbb/newton/amazingrace.htm A final note: God calls Christians to slavery - a voluntary bondservant to God's will. Utter and total submission motivated not by fear but love. Only Jesus ever achieved this perfectly, and is glorified. John 12 :26 - If any man serve me, let him follow me; and where I am, there shall also my servant be: if any man serve me, him will my Father honour. Submission - the most hated word in the English language. Matthew5:5 - Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
Assange is running for the Senate in a bid to attain diplomatic protection from rendition to a US gulag somewhere. If one wants to thwart the US attempts to render Assange then it is as simple as a vote for him in the election. Not voting for him is condemning him to a fate in which the US will prosecute him in a Star Chamber and administer their punishment. The way I see it is he has put his faith in the Australian people to realise they are voting to protect or condemn him. Clearly he is very brave, for his faith in his fellow Australians offering him "a fair go" may well be unfounded, as seen from some of the obtuse comments here.
Could be on OC, the opposition have been running a very visible campaign with Bill Glasson in Griffith, Dudds electorate.
I think his point was taking the bible literally is silly. If you think gay people want to be gay you clearly don't know many, it's just who they are.
A friend reckons Abbotts already won it in the polls...A landslide he said.....Can anyone confirm this?
I made up my mind many years ago, I'll be voting the same way I did at the previous Fed election, ie: [imgz=http://forums.silverstackers.com/uploads/753_dickphoto.jpg][/imgz]
"I made up my mind many years ago, I'll be voting the same way I did at the previous Fed election, ie:" Well I have spent two weeks trying to work it out with all the who did whats and why this and why that..... Even though libs will have some new taxes I still think we will be better off with lower electricity prices and no carbon tax..... These two things just HAVE to make it easier for business's to operate and lessen the strain of running costs. Just imagine running a pub or restaurant where you have lots of lighting and kitchens etc.... Or running a big factory with lots of overhead lighting and machines..... Power bills would be outrageous..
Poor examples.... these are the types of businesses that neither party supports. Big business - libs, unions - labs, both of those groups dislike small business. It's competition to big business and you can't get union fees from a business with 10 employees.
@ TheEnd, if it helps, it won't make any difference who wins the election, the cake may look different but it will still taste the same regardless of which election victory party you attend. Both major parties are Socialist, both major parties will attempt to tax and spend their way out of trouble, both major parties are incapable of salvaging our current economic and political crisis. Don't worry about it mate, just do an informal vote and in the meantime work harder at protecting your family's wealth and your children's legacy. That's the best you can do - and remember, there is not a politician alive who cares to share your goal and work toward your personal interest. View your family as a business, build a rock solid union with your wife and plan to leave your children in a stronger financial position than your own parents left you. And fuck the government too. :lol:
I will have a bottle of Mot on ice, just incase Rudd loses his seat. I will regret not be prepared otherwise
News Ltd on the differences. Interesting comparisons. http://www.news.com.au/national-new...hey-mean-for-you/story-fnho52qo-1226709750378
