Unsolicited / off-topic comments in trading threads

Discussion in 'Australia & New Zealand (Public)' started by goldpelican, Feb 27, 2013.

  1. Soprano16

    Soprano16 Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Talk about making mountains out of molehills :rolleyes:

    A brand new forum member buzzed an item, because they would have seen that this is how things are done here (without ever have seeing how the whole PM/back end works), and then for the sake of their own security asked if they could have some personal information for peace of mind, and it somehow lead to this?

    You're absolutely fine to refuse to provide personal info, but to then basically tell them they either must buy or you'll leave negative feedback is extremely poor form on your behalf, and sorry but I'm not buying the whole "I wanted to have a feedback there so people can be careful" thing either. Careful of what exactly?

    I'm glad Oz removed the negative feedback that was left for you, but he should probably remove the other persons feedback that you left too.

    I'm not siding with the buyer by any means, but I would think that experienced members here cut a little slack to newbies, and even take the time to help/explain how things work

    All of this could have been so easily avoided and dealt with so much better.
     
  2. wissilver

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    I don't know, i would say better safe than sorry. Anyone can make new accounts and use them for scams and the fellow doesn't have any interaction so I wouldn't say I overreacted. Besides buzzing and then wasting time on paying is an issue because if spot price moves down the buyer can make up an excuse to back out and if price moves up seller can say sorry i changed my mind. When you order something pay for it, especially when the person you are buying from has 4 recent positive seller feedback and no negative feedback ever.
     
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  3. SilverSale

    SilverSale Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    wissilver, for the record, I considered giving you negative feedback for the multiple times you wouldn't supply a price (through pm) on an item you had listed for sale.

    I consider this time wasting - I am not going to keep guessing what price you want to be paid for an item.

    I decided to be the bigger man and not give negative feedback on these occasions.
     
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  4. wissilver

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    All my items that I'm selling have a price listed on their listing. You wanted to buy my metal tester which I was not selling (ie I don't have a selling listing) so I told you make me an offer I can't refuse, i don't see anything wrong with that. If your offer was attractive to me I would have considered selling.
     
  5. SilverSale

    SilverSale Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    I consider that incorrect. You listed it for sale on multiple occasions - including mentioning that it was for sale on my WTB thread.

    Happy to provide the multiple pm's where I requested the price and you wouldn't provide a price.
     
  6. wissilver

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    There used to be a listing in the past a long time ago which had a price, after a while I closed the listing as I decided to keep it. You then posted somewhere that you were looking to buy one so on that thread I posted if anyone is interested to buy one make me an offer I can't refuse. I am not denying that I didn't tell you a price in PM, I asked you to make an offer, again nothing wrong there. If you wanted a price I can give it to you now, 1 Oz of gold as that is the price I paid for it at the time I brought it :)
     
  7. SilverSale

    SilverSale Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    I bought elsewhere from someone who actually advised what price they wanted! Cheers
     
  8. wissilver

    wissilver Active Member

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    Good on you, you bought from someone that actually wants to sell it. Anyway I don't see a negative feedback threat in public warranted for such a thing.
     
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    I think I may still give that negative feedback :p
     
  10. wissilver

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    Insert face palm emoji here
     
  11. SilverSale

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    Give you a taste of your own medicine. Also because you are a tosser.
     
  12. ozcopper

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    Just a reminder about comments in other peoples threads is not allowed unless it is relevant to the thread, eg asking about postage etc. Posts putting the item down or saying the price is to expensive will not be tolerated and repeated offender risk being banned from the forum.
     
  13. wissilver

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    Hi @ozcopper I recently sold 4 Sealed tubes of Kangaroos to a newish user called Andrew Mcgowan who is in Tasmania. He claims the tubes arrived unsealed. I told him that it's possible post authorities may have randomly chose his parcel for inspection since they have to fly to TAS and they opened them and I assured him that when they left my custody they were sealed. I told him i even have receipt that I had bought them brand new from a dealer in the past if he likes to see for himself. He didn't care and still left Negative feedback for this incident of which I had no fault of. Can you please remove his Negative feedback on my profile? I feel it's unwarranted. Everyone that has purchased from me knows they get their items are described. I have no reason to advertise an item as sealed if I don't have them sealed to begin with. Thanks.
    Feel free to review the PMs between me and him to see our discussions if you like.
     
  14. ozcopper

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    I know about it. There is no reason to leave him negative feedback because he is unhappy with the deal. He did what he said he would do on his end and paid on time. He is within his rights to leave a negative. Giving retaliatory feedback is not very nice.
     
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  15. wissilver

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    I was communicating with him and we went through all the discussion regarding this transaction. I told him that it's possible post authorities could have opened the parcel for a random inspection (considering it had to get on a plane to TAS and silver shows up black color on an xray machine, same as bombs). I assured him that all my kanagroo tubes are sealed and I checked the remaining tubes i have here are also sealed. It was part of my condition of sale that any postage risk will be the buyer's responsibility, which ofcourse would include any instances of customes opening the parcel for inspection or rough handing by auspost. I don't believe I should be held responsible for this. I kept my part of the deal and posted 4 sealed tubes. i can provide receipt evident to the admins to prove I have sealed tubes in my possession.
     
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    Yes and I told you that parcel had not been opened, it was clear to see.
    You used an express post bag and there was no tears, rips cuts or spots where it had be retaped.
     
  17. wissilver

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    Besides i have no reason to advertise my items as sealed if they were not sealed. Why would I promise one thing and do another and risk tarnishing my good reputation of 5 years for something this trivial?
     
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    Customes could have a new express satchel to replace the one they opened and placed the items in. They could also have a heating device to open the sealing tape. Worst case is they handed the item roughly and the seals opened. All these scenarios are out of my control, and I don't deserve a negative feedback. I posted 4 sealed tubes from my end that i know with 100% certainty.
     
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  19. wissilver

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    In addition, I personally don't even believe him that he got the Tubes unsealed (As I posted 4 Sealed tubes), I believe he got the tubes and opened them to check the coins himself and he's just giving me a hard time.
     
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    My feedback to him was NOT retaliatory, I shipped Sealed tubes to him and he's lying that I sent unsealed tubes. I'm in my right to leave him a negative feedback if he gets to leave negative feedback for me for doing nothing wrong. The fair thing to do is remove negative feedback for both me and him. Otherwise I can provide evidence to an admin that I had made brand new purchase from a bullion dealer proving I have sealed tubes. We're going to take the word of a new member over me a member of 5 years with great seller feedback? Something is seriously wrong here...
     

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